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OLD AND NEW PHOTOGRAPHS

I totally give up on this one my list says Summer Row but could you get this view rom there? and the same for Bus type - JOJ 224 should be in the batch as a Crossley DD42/6 but as you may notice they all look the same as busses have a variety of companies building the Chassis, Body engine - Crossley actually did it all

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I think so, just going over Friday Bridge, , perahps with a long distance lens
 
Posts 1789 and 1790 are Atlanteans from the batch of 10 referred to.. in the first post 1789 Post
Post 1791 is not a Daimler but a Crossley with Crossley bodywork.
Post 1792 carries a short working of the Inner Circe 8
Post 1794 is Leyland PD2 with Park Royal bodywork.
Posts 1795 an 1795 are in fact AEC'S, built to London RT style - did not suit the hansome lines of BCT fleet
 
Post 1800 is a Leyland TD6c which had a torque converter (sometimes called gearless). Entered service in late 1939 they were a replacement for the Dudley Road tram routes.an the 'gearless' facility was an answer to the change of driver from trams to buses.
 
Big thanks to Radiorails for the "correct" bus information I have gone through and edited my entries where necessary!

And here are a few more for him to work on!

Shown in the good old days before pedestrianisation was even thought of No 6 turns into Victoria Square, this was when there were roads to the left of the council house as we look, joining the traffic which had come down Colmore row and was turning into New Street.
The council house looking very grimy - which everywhere did at that time.
Few things I have noticed - drop windows upstairs, destination board at the rear of the upstairs deck and the blocked window at the rear where the steps go upstairs.

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To make a change from buses here are a couple of pictures of the old market hall , taken in 1920 and rather poor but give an idea of the building and the dress of the time - everyone with jackets and hats .
Second picture seems to have grills across the doors but gives an idea of the size of the building.

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Back to bus images - slightly different, turning out of High Street into Vicarage Road Kings Heath - on the outer circle route , we have a bus with the West Midland makings on the side - my list says 1960 but I thought this happened later than this - any additions appreciated .

To the left of the bus we have a nice Ford Capri and a Hillman Imp - ( the imp is travelling left.)
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To make a change from buses here are a couple of pictures of the old market hall , taken in 1920 and rather poor but give an idea of the building and the dress of the time - everyone with jackets and hats .
Second picture seems to have grills across the doors but gives an idea of the size of the building.Not sure if they have been previously on th eforum, but better copies of these are below

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A nice photo. post 1804, of an AEC Regent which was new in December 1930. It has a new appearance. It was an AEC before Daimler became the BCT preference. the style of the bus, by English Electric, had the sobriquet 'piano front'.
Post 1806 shows a "Birmingham Standard" bus, a Guy Arab entering service in 1950/51. The WMPTE took over BCT and other Midland fleets in 1969, if I remember correctly. My interest in BCT waned after then. One grim feature was the replacement of the radiator grille from the elegant BCT version with the mediocre version supplied to other municipalities.
 
Back to bus images - slightly different, turning out of High Street into Vicarage Road Kings Heath - on the outer circle route , we have a bus with the West Midland makings on the side - my list says 1960 but I thought this happened later than this - any additions appreciated .

To the left of the bus we have a nice Ford Capri and a Hillman Imp - ( the imp is travelling left.)
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Great photos, Steve! Yes, the mark I Ford Capri dates the photo to 1969 or later, while the Datsun Cherry on the right was launched in Britain in 1970. This style of bus - open at the back - was withdrawn from service in Birmingham in 1977. So that narrows the date to a seven-year window.
 
What year would that be? I'd love to know what the three ladies on the right were talking about!
Only making a guess here - the clothes look like from the 1940s?
Also, it looks like the Market Hall is without the roof and the windows are bricked up so maybe after WW2?
 
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