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OLD AND NEW PHOTOGRAPHS

Last of the tram picture on this roll we have Bristol Road Selly Oak , and the No. 70 to Rednal, first question - the advert on the front of the tram - what is it for? Mr Marlin / Martins Chunky?
Bits and pieces in the background, in front of the tram we have a small child and a bike lying on its side, not sure that the two are connected, behind the tram we have ( an old Ford Anglia?) and a man with a white hat and above the tram we have that pointed almost steeple type roof.

EDIT: Pedrocut says St. Martin’s Chunky Marmalade. thankyou


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We now go back to the pubs and outdoors of Roll 45, this is an easy one - Wheatsheaf Latimer Street, this is another of those I feel I have posted before - but as the are starting to merge now I am sure its not , the picture has a photo shopped look about with e background missing - Stonework on the ground floor bricks above and an interesting third floor at the entrance end Lorry at the end for Whittaker Ellis limited - with the trading address of Bullock Construction Ltd, Northgate Aldridge, Walsall, West Midlands, WS9 8TU

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We now go back to the pubs and outdoors of Roll 45, this is an easy one - Wheatsheaf Latimer Street, this is another of those I feel I have posted before - but as the are starting to merge now I am sure its not , the picture has a photo shopped look about with e background missing - Stonework on the ground floor bricks above and an interesting third floor at the entrance end Lorry at the end for Whittaker Ellis limited - with the trading address of Bullock Construction Ltd, Northgate Aldridge, Walsall, West Midlands, WS9 8TU

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Just to complete the roll we have these last few

The first is in Peel Street Winson Green taken in 1955, again a simple Outdoor, plenty of leaded glass an etched front door and it looks like a brass door latch, large lamp bracket and painted wall ( old sign? ) and to the side an old cobbled passage.

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Next we have 101 Arthur Street Sandpitts, rather a large and imposing building, M&B branding and three storeys , my question, is this a pub or an outdoor, seems rather large just for out sales - but there is no sign to say otherwise - or am I just missing something -Note also the delivery doors to the property on the left at first floor level

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Roll 46 :party:
A short roll as a quick look shows that there are many duplicates and even without checking I can see that I have posted these before.

Something a bit more modern - These were taken in 1991 and a few general views - this is Lichfield Road looking towards Aston, I think the road to the right of the traffic light is Sandy Lane if I have my location correct - much changed now of course with a dual carriagway in front of us.
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we now turn around and look he opposite direction not much to see but it looks if the road widening is about to start. Modern day seems to have a lot more trees, but there seems not much to add. If you look very carefully you can see the HP sauce chimney just below the sign to the left of the lamppost.

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We seem to be taking a slow 360 degree tour of the site - we now are looking at Victoria Road again not much has changed although we can no longer join Lichfield Road here. We seem to be at the start of the road works around here with the flexible fencing and the portacabins on the left.

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So we have done a 360 from both sides of the road - the only view left now is this one of the Vine, an imposing three storey building, but looking pretty quite on this day. Still has the square " globe" over the door and sash windows upstairs.
Now it looks like a practice sheet for graffiti artists - and to roll back the years on Street view is quite heartbreaking.

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So we have done a 360 from both sides of the road - the only view left now is this one of the Vine, an imposing three storey building, but looking pretty quite on this day. Still has the square " globe" over the door and sash windows upstairs.
Now it looks like a practice sheet for graffiti artists - and to roll back the years on Street view is quite heartbreaking.

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there is a lot of interesting information on this thread for this pub...well worth reading...ive feared for this one for years now

ellbrown

Thread 'Vine Inn Lichfield Road Aston'

Heading back to Aston Station from Aston Hall, I spotted this derelict pub in a sorry state. Was The Vine on Lichfield Road.

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we now move onto a selection of Outdoors - never sure if people enjoy them - they all look the same - but I suppose if one was down you street you would like to see a picture of it.
First is 143 Cromwell Street taken in July 1953, three storey building with very small windows on the front, large M&B Ales and Stouts sign and I assume the licensee at the door, front bay window display of a few bottles but much like other properties which I assume it used to be.

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I love seeing outdoors from all across Birmingham - thank you Steve for posting.
 
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Quick update - I moved onto Roll 45 only to find a number of pictures I posted in 2023, however these are better copies so I have been replacing these and then hunting to check for duplicates so this next image is the next " new" photo I believe.

This is the Roebuck, Hollier Street and Darwin Street, M and B pub but in an unusual style for them?, Stone work on the ground floor then small bay windows with leaded glass on the first and small plain windows on the third floor. Interesting window styling on the property on the left and a small single storey building on the end.
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The same location today. Blimey.
 

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Good morning - had a few days off so thought rather than posting when I am dropping off to sleep I would post a few picture when I am actually awake. We have moved onto Roll 47 .
We have a selection of busses to start - limited information with these, and locations are taken from the list so happy to be corrected and as always apologies if a duplicate creeps in!!

First is No 96 standing in Old Congreve Street in 1962 - 238 DOC is one of ten Atlanteans purchased by Birmingham.
Everyone wrapped up for the weather, although the windows at the front of the bus look open. Open sides shelter with the large round bus stop sign.

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apologies for the poor quality - No. 96 heading up Summer Row, fine selection of vehicles in the background, another Atlantean, , spotters guide - Atlanteans have two grills in the front , two large headlights and a single smaller light pavement side - also if its heading to Lodge Road shouldn't that be "From City"?


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We now get a bit hazy on information - A special standing in Alum Rock Road note the tilted driver windscreen, off set cab, and note the windows are drop style . Note the Craven A advert and Corporation Crest on the side of the bus

Edit: Crossley with Crossley bodywork. Thanks RadioRails


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All I have for this one is Saltley which may be a guess based on the destination board but in reality could be anywhere , Wythall offers this as a
Daimler COG5 main difference is there is a more pronounced step between decks , note the guard behind the front wheel to prevent accidents. See also the traffic lights with the stripes continuing up the lamp covers too.


Edit: carries a short working of the Inner Circe 8 - thanks Radiorails


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apologies for the poor quality - No. 96 heading up Summer Row, fine selection of vehicles in the background, another Atlantean, , spotters guide - Atlanteans have two grills in the front , two large headlights and a single smaller light pavement side - also if its heading to Lodge Road shouldn't that be "From City"?


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no steve i think to city is correct its coming up from spring hill to summer row and i can just make out it says fleet st on the right....i think

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Moving to somewhere a bit more recognisable - just leaving New street for the climb up Corporation Street, thats as much a a visitor today may be able to work out everything in the background has changed, these were the days that cars could go anywhere - as can be seen here - and pedestrians took their chances and were confined to the edge of the road. The radiator badge is AEC .

Edit: Bus type is an AEC built to London RT style - did not suit the handsome lines of BCT fleet - Thanks Radiorails

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Moving round the corner we have 15A heading along Navigation Street crossing the bridge above the tracks of New Street Station. Educated guess has this as a Guy Arab IV ( thanks Wythall) spotting guide note the number box above the destination panel and the two eyebrow vents above the front windows. This view remains unchanged although move to the right and it a whole different era- almost space age - progress I think they call it !!

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This is another picture that all looks well compared to today but a turn left or right is a shock to the system, here we have the 14E passing the Fire Station coming out of Aston Street, looks a lot calmer then - 1960's , note the keep left sign on the small island. Buildings in Aston Street are all there although they have changed to student fare - Greggs etc .

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We move up and we are now top of Albert Street into High Street and we are outside the former News Theatre, everyone dressed in long coats , note the RAF and the roundel, and on the pavement the "Police no waiting sign. Taken in 1959. as with most cinemas - closed and turned into something else, and totally wiped of the planet - no feature left today.
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Bus type is an AEC built to London RT style - did not suit the handsome lines of BCT fleet - Thanks Radiorails

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Next we have the 66 standing in Whittall Street , what amazes me posting these picture around Birmingham and comparing the old and new is that so many places are exactly the same nothing has changed apart from signs and the trees been a lot taller . Guy Arab IV, looks to be waiting for its next turn. Van in the background and the ol;d style No Waiting sign - yellow background to the wording.

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The next picture has a very old look about it even though it was taken in the 1950,s the No.50 is climbing Suffolk Street cobbles and all, buildings in the background look from another era. A. Brock and sons with the small shop with much larger premises further down the road, again the bus has drop windows but I have given up trying to sort types!!

Final words from Radiorails - thanks for all the corrections.
Post 1800 is a Leyland TD6c which had a torque converter (sometimes called gearless). Entered service in late 1939 they were a replacement for the Dudley Road tram routes.an the 'gearless' facility was an answer to the change of driver from trams to buses.

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