Thank you so much. I’ve gone on but won’t take my card for some reasonWhat I can glean from the search results for the 1921 census is that William, Gladys and Arthur are living at 121 Deakins Road. William's birthplace is listed as Rhiwlas, Carnarvonshire (mentioned previously) and his occupation is listed as Fitter Labour.
Deakins Road is in the Hay Mills area of Birmingham but in 1921 came under the Kings Norton district.
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MWS
from Bham
Through from where? From family or did you order it?
If the latter, how did you know you were ordering the correct one? Is father Owen David Jones and mother Sarah Ann Williams?
MWS
from Bham
Sorry, I thought you meant you had ordered you great grandad William's birth certificate.
Yes it was. Thank you again. Just need to find Arthur now Dennis died in Surrey.Arthur bit of a mystery lol
MWS
from Bham
I mentioned possibilities for Arthur here...
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The Doris M Wilkins who he possibly marries, re-marries in 1963 which may indicate the death is correct.
ROBERT JONES Lyndon Road
1921 census is only on FMP and you have to pay but I don't see how 1921 information is going to help identify a death in 1952. Can we not see where he lived from 1945 untill his death with the 1921 census
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The Doris M Wilkins who he possibly marries, re-marries in 1963 which may indicate the death is correct.
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MWS
from Bham
There also appears to be a family tree on Ancestry that has the above Doris - Doris Minnie Wilkins - in it. The tree is under the name Packer (name of her second husband).
From what I can see, which admittedly isn't much, it does mention an Arthur Owen Jones but if it's yours it has the death date wrong. The date they have appears to apply to an Arthur, 43 years older than her, not impossible but unlikely.
From what I can see, which admittedly isn't much, it does mention an Arthur Owen Jones but if it's yours it has the death date wrong. The date they have appears to apply to an Arthur, 43 years older than her, not impossible but unlikely.
pjmburns
master brummie
The "O" might be a good indicator as the birth I listed has him as Arthur Owen
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ROBERT JONES Lyndon Road
No Gladys appears to have been in Bham, possibly Balsall Heath, the daughter of Herbert Shirley and Emily Martha Wise. Gladys and William certainly married in the Merthyr Tydfil area but as said on the 1921 census he puts his birthplace as Carnarvon. That's only from the transcript, the actual...
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I have messaged the person in the packer tree on ancestry, but looking at the information attached to him has a mother of Emily Jones, a father of William Jones then a Harry Jones and probate to a Beatrice Louisa Jones. Could be that they have attached the wrong information.will carry on looking
MWS
from Bham
The tree name would seem to imply that it was done by a Packer so info for Arthur (a non relation) may not have been gathered with particular care. From what I can see, I can't see the parents or a year of birth.
If it does prove to be correct (though I suspect it isn't) at least you can rule out Doris as a potential wife to your Arthur.
If it does prove to be correct (though I suspect it isn't) at least you can rule out Doris as a potential wife to your Arthur.
pjmburns
master brummie
There is an Arthur Owen Jones who had parents Harry and Emily but he was born in 1901. He seems to have died in 1975
The probate record cannot be the right one as the tree says his wife was Doris but the probate lists his widow as Beatrice.
The Death record is for the same person the RAF records are for but that is a death in 1975 while the probate is for a death in 1949.
A very muddled tree.
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Yeah i found all that it is very muddled. We definitely know that Arthurs parents are Gladys and william.There is an Arthur Owen Jones who had parents Harry and Emily but he was born in 1901. He seems to have died in 1975
The probate record cannot be the right one as the tree says his wife was Doris but the probate lists his widow as Beatrice.
The Death record is for the same person the RAF records are for but that is a death in 1975 while the probate is for a death in 1949.
A very muddled tree.
pjmburns
master brummie
I don't think too much importance can be attached to this tree.
I would be inclined to contact Yardley and ask about the burial of the Artur Jones in May 1958. That seems to fit with the death I referred to in post 141
My aunt and uncle went there yesterday, but forgot to ask. I cant get through on phone to the actual cemetery unfortunately.
Yeah its mine Gladys and William have graves for there picture. No description on the the lady at the cemetery told them where they are
