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The Jewellery Quarter

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Just been reading all the threads, hope to visit quarter & surround again soon. 3 members of my family lived at no.1, 1 Cox Street - opposite St. Paul's Church (1841 census). The day I visited, July 2010. I have to tell you. I came out of New Street Station and felt I'd come home. I had some idea of what I'd expect to see but I was really pleased, including lunch in one of the local pubs, 2 course, glass of wine - for two - under £15! Good teamwork at the jewellery museum. We bought some jewellery across the road, contemporary, more to my taste, good price too. A quick visit to the Central Library, the often nightmare sudden platform changes at New Street, came home. It was brilliant.
 
HI LYN ;
Am i reading correctly that the old toilets at the bottom of ickneild street are going to become a shop
the ones by the mint and used to be opersite the butchers called stodards
i think its becoming the norm now with these councils across the country because here in worcestershire we have done excatly the same
with a small block of public toiets [ mens and womens ] it is next to a cemetry ; directly across the rd from the very cemetry
and its opeened up as as a undrtakers office with the little offices above it it really is umbeleiverable to think of
with the ones you have at ickneild street i cannot see any purpose for it as you still have shops across the rd from it so surely it wpould not happen ;
the only thing i could ever see whats gonna happen is it possible a taxi office it sure would not get the planning permission for a food out let ;
but there again knowing whom the planners are i suspect it will be a taxi office base which if i think back i am not sure where there is a taxi office for that part of the area it could prove to be handy as all i can recall is constitution hill and up at the ivy bush by the pub are the excisting offices ; i must come and find out and see it ;when i last drove up therethe other week i look around and recalling the area as i knew growing up and it certaily had memorys
like most area of brum esp[ecialy the lady wood they have distroyed it that being the planners
especialy around the king edwards rd and the st marks street what on earth or deamt it up beyond me i can tell you ;
lyn thanks for the info; on this ; best wishes alan ;; astonian;;
 
hi alan...yes this is what we are led to believe...that the old toilets are to become some sort of shop..

lyn
 
My remark about it being a "convenience" store was, of course, a pun!
I can't see it being a Tesco Express, not even a wee one......
 
hi lynn
how are you keeping fine i hope?
i was wondering whether or not is there much progress on these building at warstone lane
as i would like to take a look for myself as i am thinking along the lines of a bussines sense for a project that my son and myself
are thinking along the lines you may not know it but these toilets building are taking off
there was recentlly down at acocks green by the picture house which my son told me about it was up for sale
i spoke out about it and told him my views but yesterday going to our ware house we passed bye and i was impressed by the turn around
as to the way they converted to a shop it looked good ; we have one in worcestershire being done in the last twelve months
and its an under tkers office ; mind you its next to the cemetry it loks impressive ; and they are reasonable cheap to buy ;
have a nice day lynn ; best wishes alan ;; astonian;;
 
Have any of your goodselves visited the Museum in Vyse Street? I would suggest that you do, bearing in mind the Health & Safety Act (1974).
 
Yes wilmott, we went some years ago, but now it's quite a long time to stand and walk about. I enoyed hearing how the hand-washing water was filtered through sawdust which was then burned to recover the gold. Also the ends of stool-legs were sawn off and burned for the same reason, extra layers were then added on top to bring them up to height!
It was good to imagine how Grandad worked at his bench.
rosie.
 
:fat: Yes, I remember transferring my weight from one leg to the other - duress. 2 hours. What about the stairs,
I remember, surely not to exit the same way - I'll never manage it!

Pats (former UWE)
 
Hi Charlie,

Do you still have this image available to share? This street (Albion Street) is of great interest to me.

All that I can see is "attached thumbnails"

Many thanks
 
Here's Camden Drive, will have to find the others later, if I have time (off on hols tomorrow).
Charlie
 

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hi ya charlie try changing the title of the original photo you should be able to upload it then...says she hopefully...

enjoy the hols...

lyn
 
Hi Charlie,
Do you still have this image available to share? This street (Albion Street) is of great interest to me.
All that I can see is "attached thumbnails"
Many thanks
I have a pdf file in my laptop which links to about 3000 forum pics and when I asked it to link to Albion and Camden it showed me the following posts. Click on the links ...
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Albion Street 1895 #1913
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=38737&p=492261#post492261
Albion Street #3754
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=38737&p=532256#post532256
Pope street and Albion Street the George and Dragon #639
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=40378&p=528996#post528996
Camden Drive That Runs From Legge Lane To Camden Street #84
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=33053&p=344800#post344800
Mom And Friend Clara Chapman Camden Drive1928. #26
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=40378&p=463718#post463718
7 Camden Grove Camden Drive #59
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=40378&p=463972#post463972
Court 7 Camden Street 1900s #446
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=40378&p=489551#post489551
Court 6 Camden Grove 1900s #447
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=40378&p=489552#post489552
Camden St Brookfields 1967 #405
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=38737&p=445964#post445964
 
Barker Brothers

A stock book for early twentieth century for Barker Brothers, silversmiths of Birmingham, with various photographs of their products goes on sale to day at the Antiques for Everyone Show at the NEC- -it is a rare example of what the silversmiths of Birmingham produced.
 
In 1964 I worked for a short while at Barker Ellis which was Barker Brothers and Ellis and Co combined. Their showroom, which was huge, was packed full of the most beautiful silver, some was plate, some was pure silver. Ellis & Co had a small office tucked away in a corner of this very large building, I believe they dealt in antique silver and Sheffield plate, but I may not be fully correct there. It was an interesting place to work, and because as a junior I had to deliver the post to all the different departments, I got to see a lot that mosty office workers didn't. The most astonishing thing for me was that in the plating shop there were large vats of cyanide with wires across the top, onto which were suspended goods awaiting plating. There were wires trailing everywhere, the floor got wet, it was an accident waiting to happen, but I guess that was the way in those days. It struck me as dangerous then, and I was only 17.
 
This stock book covers the item numbers in the 2000 range that covers a period 1911-1938 and includes trays plates, silver glassware, candle stick, pitchers etc. Anotherbook is known also to exist in private hands
 
Shortie: I worked for an anodising company in Camden Drive during the mid sixties and those huge vats were all over the shop floor, filled with chemicals. The wires were for "jigging up" the stuff to be anodised and the men all wore rubber aprons, long rubber gloves and wellies. I had to walk over the raised boards to get to the back of the shop so got free nylons from the firm - one splash and that was your best Wolfords shredded in a flash! Health and Safety certainly wasn't alive and kicking in those days.
 
A bit more info about the Heritage Lottery Funding of 3 Jewellery Qtr projects: JQ Townscape, JQ cemeteries and the Standard Works. The full article's here.......... https://www.jewelleryquarter.net/2015/10/multi-million-pound-boost-to-transform-jewellery-quarter/


The Townscape project covers 3 properties which are now too dangerous to enter - all Grade II listed structures – at 46, Frederick Street; 6, Legge Lane; and 36-46 Vittoria Street.

Good news and a great boost for the JQ. Hope the Standard Works achieves the full funding to establish its Heritage Gallery/Centre. Viv.
 
St Pauls, Hockley graves

I once had a chat with the vicar there when I was looking around the graveyard. He told me how the church fell into disrepair and was under serious threat of demolition back in the 60's. He also said how many of the records went missing so they really dont know who was buried there at all, let alone where. It is such a lovely area these days though

Steve
Hi Folks,
My grandfather was a Jeweller in the Jewellery Quarter, when he lost his job at 60 he became self-employed and set up his peg (workbench) in the front room of our house in Heaton St, where I was born in 1949, I was about 3 when he died. (See Heaton St Thread, Page 1, Post #15 for more details). He is buried in Key Hill Cemetery, not sure why he chose there instead of St Paul's (known as The Jewellers' Church) probably because it was just closer to home. When I was a professional photographer my Brummie knowledge often came in handy to get the short, attached is one that didn't make the front cover, St Paul's shot from the City Centre at the Junction of Ludgate Hill and Gt Charles St Queensway in 1993.
Regards,
Peg.
Jewellers Church upload.jpg
 
Hi Folks,
Forgot to mention, I used to accompany my mother to buy gold bullion from Johnson Mathey in the Jewellery Quarter (she would carry the ingots back home in a carrier bag) for my grandfather's work, I think security would have to be a bit tighter these days!
Regards,
Peg.
 
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Hi Peg Monkey,
My Grandfather was a jeweller in the Jewellery Quarter too. He made my mother's wedding ring and engagement ring, also a signet ring and a snake-ring with red eyes! I wear the wedding ring but the other is too fragile now.
St. Paul's Church closed for burials in 1861 and was laid out as a garden in 1894. (From McKenna, "In the midst of Life"). Key Hill Cemetery is a beautiful place to be buried.
rosie.
 
Hi Peg Monkey,
My Grandfather was a jeweller in the Jewellery Quarter too. He made my mother's wedding ring and engagement ring, also a signet ring and a snake-ring with red eyes! I wear the wedding ring but the other is too fragile now.
St. Paul's Church closed for burials in 1861 and was laid out as a garden in 1894. (From McKenna, "In the midst of Life"). Key Hill Cemetery is a beautiful place to be buried.
rosie.
Hi Rosie, thanks for the info', my grandfather died c1952 - so well after St Paul's had closed it's doors to new residents!
Key Hill: apparently very advanced in its day, I've read somewhere when it first opened it had a mechanical conveyor system to transport new arrivals from the gate to their final resting place.
Regards,
Peg.
 
1572517074401.png A Phyllis Nicklin photo of Vyse Street 1/4/1967
Mention is made of three premises:
110 - H W. Spencer, watch repairer
111 - C. Lucas & Sons, jewellers and ring makers
112 - Geo. Taylor & Sons, ring makers and diamond mounters
 
There seems to be a few thread about Birmingham's famous jewellery quarter and some of the occupants of Vyse Street.
So far I made little progress in searching for the three names in my previous post.
 
A Free exhibition at the Ikon Gallery:

26 October to 10 November: Still: Stories from the Jewellery Quarter exhibition

A new exhibition is exploring the past and present experiences of those who spend their lives working in this important and historic area of Birmingham.

Bringing together photographic portraits and oral histories from the heart of the Jewellery Quarter, the exhibition provides a unique insight into Birmingham’s cultural and industrial heritage. The exhibition is inspired by people who have spent their lives working in an area within the Jewellery Quarter covering just six streets – Frederick Street, Warstone Lane, Legge Lane, Albion Street, Vittoria Street and Regent Place. Focusing on an area which is experiencing intense change, the exhibition provides the opportunity to consider and reflect on the lives and memories of some of those who have helped give the iconic area its unique character.



The exhibition is being held at Iron House Gallery and is open Mondays to Saturdays from 10am to 5pm.

Free to attend.

There will also be a series of events and activities to support the exhibition, see website for further details at th.jewelleryquarter.net/StillJQ

There is a talk by Carl Chinn to go with the exhibition, but unfortunately this is full up
 
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