Old Brummy
master brummie
Have sent in reply re the numbereing of Norwood Villas in Waterworks Rd and it will probably show up somwhere Old Brummy
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Newspapers : From Birmingham Post 150 years ago
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7.4.1863
As no position of the site is given,I think that, if I had a property in Garrison st at this time, I would be worried all & sundry would come anmd dump rubbish on it.
The New Theatre, also called the New Theatre royal in an advert in the same paper, has reopened under new management, a few weeks after the building was advertised here.
Thomas Henry Jukes Stirrop, surely a name for dickens to choose for the landlord of a hunting inn, though actually it was the Garrick's Head, Lower temple St.
A lovely description.
Must have been a bit of an embarresmant for him to hold these views then . For those not aware, Oxford Castle, of which he was the governor, was then the local gaol.
As no position of the site is given,I think that, if I had a property in Garrison st at this time, I would be worried all & sundry would come anmd dump rubbish on it.
The New Theatre, also called the New Theatre royal in an advert in the same paper, has reopened under new management, a few weeks after the building was advertised here.
Thomas Henry Jukes Stirrop, surely a name for dickens to choose for the landlord of a hunting inn, though actually it was the Garrick's Head, Lower temple St.
A lovely description.
Must have been a bit of an embarresmant for him to hold these views then . For those not aware, Oxford Castle, of which he was the governor, was then the local gaol.
paul stacey
master brummie
A "GORILLA", cast countenance, seems like a homely lad??paul
Think his 'wertchip' was having his bit of fun too playing to the audience! Viv.
I like the idea of adding a word to distinguish similarly named streets. How about 'Old' New Street, 'Very' New Street, 'Luscious' Cherry Street, 'Big' Cannon Street, 'Little' Cannon Street, 'Steep' Hill Street, 'Lower' High Street, 'Busy' High Street ..... OK I'll stop there! But come on town planners, we could be a bit more imaginative and as the 1863 article suggests, streets would "sound more musical".
The anti-slavery bazaar would most likely be addressed primarily to women. I have an ancestor who was a patron of Industrial Schools (not B'ham, but Liverpool) and the adverts I've seen of those are aimed at women who have time (and money) on their hands.
Viv.
The anti-slavery bazaar would most likely be addressed primarily to women. I have an ancestor who was a patron of Industrial Schools (not B'ham, but Liverpool) and the adverts I've seen of those are aimed at women who have time (and money) on their hands.
Viv.
Re.Mike's first article # 758, the vision of people climbing into locked carriages via the window seems absolutely farcical. The whole trip sounds like a nightmare. Do like the way the article is written. Think the secure umbrella stand sounds like a good idea. But surprisingly I've never had an umbrella disappear from a communal umbrella stand. Viv.
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Wendy
Guest
Going back to post #756 "Gin shop Front" I think you had to have a special licence to sell gin, and maybe a special sign or frontage. It was often used as a medication I believe. The later Gin Palaces were early restaurants and dance halls.
Wendy
Do you mean a medication like certain gentlemen you see in the streets use cider as a medication?
Viv
i agree about the writing. There are a lot of reports in the paper which have simillarly detailed interesting reports, but often so long that they could not be included in the thread. Surprisingly, even some of the council reports could be included in this
Mike
Do you mean a medication like certain gentlemen you see in the streets use cider as a medication?
Viv
i agree about the writing. There are a lot of reports in the paper which have simillarly detailed interesting reports, but often so long that they could not be included in the thread. Surprisingly, even some of the council reports could be included in this
Mike
Anne Watton
master brummie
Brilliant Mike! Does anyone know what a clogger was? Anne
Anne Watton
master brummie
Thanks Mike, I am interested because my g g grandfather John Carr is listed in the 1871 census as a professional clog dancer and was then a teacher. He came to Brum in 1901 when I guess he was too old. Anne
brummie nick
master brummie
16.4.1863
From the report it looks like the entire membership of this yardley church was employed by one man, Mr Horsfall.
I know publicans often had another business, but it looks like this was a little empire, pub, butcher,slaughterhouse and corn stores.
A very hard doctor. Don't think I would like to be treated hy him.
The discussion only mentions beer in passing, presumably because of the anti-drink lobby.
From the report it looks like the entire membership of this yardley church was employed by one man, Mr Horsfall.
I know publicans often had another business, but it looks like this was a little empire, pub, butcher,slaughterhouse and corn stores.
A very hard doctor. Don't think I would like to be treated hy him.
The discussion only mentions beer in passing, presumably because of the anti-drink lobby.
17.4.1863
Used to the nipple !!. the mind boggles, though it presumably it concerns a nipple on the soda water machine.
Apparently before this you could put in marriage adverts for free.
Never heard of funeral services being called "black work2 before, though i can see why it might be so called.
Can't trust anyone these days !
Used to the nipple !!. the mind boggles, though it presumably it concerns a nipple on the soda water machine.
Apparently before this you could put in marriage adverts for free.
Never heard of funeral services being called "black work2 before, though i can see why it might be so called.
Can't trust anyone these days !
sylviasayers
master brummie
Mike, repost 770 I am not sure if my memory is correct, but I think Mr.Horsfall was connected to the large bedstead makers in the area, a 3 named firm which I cannot remember offhand.
20.4.1863
Today we have a measles epidemic because people would not be vaccinated, but then it was smallpox.
A very honest shopkeeper, bet Tescos wouldn't put an advert in the paper, or even admit their error.
The Leopard must have had a very large clubroom to hold 1000 people.
I pity the poor giant , being on display for 7 hours a day.
Today we have a measles epidemic because people would not be vaccinated, but then it was smallpox.
A very honest shopkeeper, bet Tescos wouldn't put an advert in the paper, or even admit their error.
The Leopard must have had a very large clubroom to hold 1000 people.
I pity the poor giant , being on display for 7 hours a day.
Re. the Smallpox outbreak, I wonder whether the need to demolish the Queen's Bench Prison ('has to be pulled down afterwards') means it was due for demolition or because of infection?
The cynic in me questions whether the overcharged coat was a PR stunt. As you say Mike it just wouldn't happen these days. Viv.
The cynic in me questions whether the overcharged coat was a PR stunt. As you say Mike it just wouldn't happen these days. Viv.
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Wendy
Guest
What an horrific story Mike...!!
22.4.1863
The figures show how rare was divorce ( I gather it took an act of parliament, though you could get annulments , and these were more common, i believe). In the whole of the UK only 6 men and 5 women were remarried after divorce, with one case of two divorceees marrying each other.
Pavement blockages - Marks & Spencers (and others) do that inside their stores nowadays, deliberately obstruct your passage to what you want by putting a load of rubbish in the way of the direct route.
Not sure what this chap is protesting about, but he is definitely protesting !
Homeopathic remedies are so diluted that there is virtually nothing of the original product left in it. do you think that homeopathic cocoa has virtually no cocoa in it?
The figures show how rare was divorce ( I gather it took an act of parliament, though you could get annulments , and these were more common, i believe). In the whole of the UK only 6 men and 5 women were remarried after divorce, with one case of two divorceees marrying each other.
Pavement blockages - Marks & Spencers (and others) do that inside their stores nowadays, deliberately obstruct your passage to what you want by putting a load of rubbish in the way of the direct route.
Not sure what this chap is protesting about, but he is definitely protesting !
Homeopathic remedies are so diluted that there is virtually nothing of the original product left in it. do you think that homeopathic cocoa has virtually no cocoa in it?
DavidGrain
master brummie
With reference to the post two days ago about using the Queens Bench Prison as a hospital for smallpox victims. This prison was for civil offenses and was therefore often used as a debtors prison. Imprisonment for debt was abolished in the 1860s and this could be what the writer in the article was refereing to. Infact the Queens (Kings) Bench Prison was not demolished until 1880. This picture is an engraving shown in Wikipedia is by Augustus Charles Pugin and others and published in a book of 1809 
23.4.1863
Presumably this is tolkien's father, who seems to have expanded from music into other arts.
Fire in Summer Lane. Teh engines were called as soon as the fire was discoveredm implies that there was no-one present when it started, yet it is claimed to have been caused while drawing off turpentine from a cask ??!!
Presumably this is tolkien's father, who seems to have expanded from music into other arts.
Fire in Summer Lane. Teh engines were called as soon as the fire was discoveredm implies that there was no-one present when it started, yet it is claimed to have been caused while drawing off turpentine from a cask ??!!