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Newspapers : From Birmingham Post 150 years ago
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DavidGrain
master brummie
Nothing like sherbet but we could not afford sherbet as kids. I always thought it was spelled as Kayli because Kali is a Hindu God.
DavidGrain
master brummie
We also have to remember that MPs didn't get paid in those days. Now look at the latest proposals on MPs pay.
This adjourned debate would have been a short debate at the end of the main day's business. So the 12 o'clock time given would have been evening time and I'd expect patience was running thin for this sort of issue by this time. The figure of £20,000 for alterations seem excessive to me - maybe the wallpaper they'd hoped for had bumped up the builder's estimate!! Viv.
DavidGrain
master brummie
I don't think the Speaker would have taken the chair at midnight because he would already have been there if it was an adjournment debate. Also adjournment debates are always on a motion to adjourn the House. This debate was on a motion to enlarge the dining room. From personal experience I can tell you that both the House of Commons and the House of Lords now have several rooms for dining.
Thanks for putting me right David. Thank goodness they're now well catered for, hate to think of MPs having to nip out for a burger! Viv.
Not only advertising excursions but advertising their 2d 'brochure' too, very entrepreneurial. How exotic it all must have seemed, well for those who could afford International travel at the time. Viv.
The cordial sounds like dreadful stuff, from Wiki:
"Godfrey's Cordial, a simple mixture of morphine and treacle, was particulary sinister, since it had a tendency to separate after time, with the morphine sinking to the bottom. Pharmacies sold Godfrey's Cordial out of large jugs to any adult or child who wanted some, so anyone who bought the last few doses from the jug were probably getting straight morphine. Kids got so addicted to it that infants would recognize the distinctive bottle of Godfrey's Cordial and doggedly chew the cork off. Older children who were sent to the chemist to buy a week's supply would often drink it all before they made it home".
Viv.
"Godfrey's Cordial, a simple mixture of morphine and treacle, was particulary sinister, since it had a tendency to separate after time, with the morphine sinking to the bottom. Pharmacies sold Godfrey's Cordial out of large jugs to any adult or child who wanted some, so anyone who bought the last few doses from the jug were probably getting straight morphine. Kids got so addicted to it that infants would recognize the distinctive bottle of Godfrey's Cordial and doggedly chew the cork off. Older children who were sent to the chemist to buy a week's supply would often drink it all before they made it home".
Viv.
20.7.1863
Adderley, later Lord Norton is often praised as a person contributing much in the way of houses and facilities to the city, but his views on punishment do not show him as a reformer.
The name is written as Key Hill in much earlier maps, and also in the 1862 Corporation Directory, so I wonder if this is an alternative spelling, or just an idiosyncrasy of the cemetery at the time.
Adderley, later Lord Norton is often praised as a person contributing much in the way of houses and facilities to the city, but his views on punishment do not show him as a reformer.
The name is written as Key Hill in much earlier maps, and also in the 1862 Corporation Directory, so I wonder if this is an alternative spelling, or just an idiosyncrasy of the cemetery at the time.
21.7.1863
Publicans often had another source of income. This is the first I have heard of with his own weighing machine.
The death occurred of the "Female Blondin", a tightrope walker, apparently caused by poor rope, which seems to have been known about previously. the whole cutting is rather long, so this is just an excert
Publicans often had another source of income. This is the first I have heard of with his own weighing machine.
The death occurred of the "Female Blondin", a tightrope walker, apparently caused by poor rope, which seems to have been known about previously. the whole cutting is rather long, so this is just an excert
DavidGrain
master brummie
Many years ago I saw an antiques weighing machine in the cloakroom of a hotel in Stoke on Trent. It had a leather armchair for you to sit on whilst being weighed. A few weeks ago I stayed in a pub in Malvern and in the hotel reception area there was an antique weighing machine also with a seat but not so well upholstered as the one in Stoke. Receptionist told me that they were looking for someone to restore it.
DavidGrain
master brummie
I had to look up what a Charter Master was (from Ancestry.com)
A Charter Master or Butty another name that these people were called along
with, bargain man, bargain taker and butty man.
He would get contracts for getting coal in a specified section at agreed
rate per ton. He would also take care of timbering, repairs, safety and pay
and employ his own workers (hewers etc). He would also contract to keep in
repair certain lengths of underground roads, or contract to clear coal at
machine cut face at a fixed price per ton.
My great great grandfather Thomas Gough was a Charter Master in the Monmoor
Green area of Wolverhampton and in the Willenhall, Staffordshire area in the
middle 1800's.
I don't remember if it was on this thread but there was a question about the meaning of the Black Country term Butty which had come to mean a Foreman.
A Charter Master or Butty another name that these people were called along
with, bargain man, bargain taker and butty man.
He would get contracts for getting coal in a specified section at agreed
rate per ton. He would also take care of timbering, repairs, safety and pay
and employ his own workers (hewers etc). He would also contract to keep in
repair certain lengths of underground roads, or contract to clear coal at
machine cut face at a fixed price per ton.
My great great grandfather Thomas Gough was a Charter Master in the Monmoor
Green area of Wolverhampton and in the Willenhall, Staffordshire area in the
middle 1800's.
I don't remember if it was on this thread but there was a question about the meaning of the Black Country term Butty which had come to mean a Foreman.
24.7.1863
Two cases where thieves had a good day. In the first, previously mentioned, the charge was stealing a handkerchief from a policeman, he got off as the did not suceed in the theft. In the second case, a girl stole some boots, but the complainant was softened by the girl's distress and withdrew charges, and to top it the judge payed for the boots.
Two cases where thieves had a good day. In the first, previously mentioned, the charge was stealing a handkerchief from a policeman, he got off as the did not suceed in the theft. In the second case, a girl stole some boots, but the complainant was softened by the girl's distress and withdrew charges, and to top it the judge payed for the boots.
paul stacey
master brummie
Great compassion, and common sense, very rare for the times.!!!
27.7.1863
An unusual cricket match, I suppose the equivalent then of paralympics .
Had not come across this pub before. It seems to be first mentioned in the press in 1861 and the last mention is in 1868 , when the contents are being sold off. Would love to know what was in the museum. It was at no 24, on the opposite side of the junction with Barford St to the Queens Head
An unusual cricket match, I suppose the equivalent then of paralympics .
Had not come across this pub before. It seems to be first mentioned in the press in 1861 and the last mention is in 1868 , when the contents are being sold off. Would love to know what was in the museum. It was at no 24, on the opposite side of the junction with Barford St to the Queens Head
