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New Street Station From 1854 - 1966

Sorry to ask , Are you sure this is New Street .

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I stood on that very platform at the old New Street Station, waiting for the trains to come into view to take us on vacation when I was a little lad in the '50s-'60s, so I am pretty darn sure that it is authentic.

Martin
 
Here is a train entering platform 10 in June 1962, showing some of the station buildings .

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Here's an old print of New Street Station, that hangs on the wall next to my desk in the corner of our living room, along with the inset information.

Martin
 

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Thank you Mike Gee that print of yours has now convinced me that it is New Street , I will sleep much better tonight now than last night , wonderful picture BTW and the prints , Raggs ;)
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Well seemingly not during the General Strike of 1926 !
But the locomotive looks like at 5P 4F 2-6-0 which was a type introduced in 1926 and built in batches thereafter. Rail enthusiasts called the type "crab".
 
In transition. View of Platform 1 as it undergoes redevelopment in the 1960s. Viv.

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Source: British Newspaper Archive
 
Birmingham New Street was originally two stations in one separated by Queen's Drive

Not strictly true, the Midland Railway built the one side of Queen Drive, but New Street station as a whole was classed as a "joint station" after the Midland Railway side was made and there was a joint station master.

The original station was effectively owned and built for the London & North Western Railway, but Midland Railway trains came to use it after their tenancy at Curzon Street ended. It was also, for a time, used by the Shrewsbury & Birmingham Railway and the South Staffordshire Railway companies. In the first years of it's existence the name Grand Central was applied to this original station.

With Grouping of 1921-23 New Street became the responsibility of the LMS and then BR. It was BR that reconstructed the station as part of the Electrification Scheme Liverpool & Manchester- London. It was Network Rail that were responsible for the modern make over, which led to the name Grand Central being applied to the shopping centre and the Metro Stop.

During 2022 the station signs also mentioned the Commonwealth Games which ended last Monday.

As to Station signage one perhaps that needs to be taken to task is Birmingham International which now has platform name boards "Birmingham Int"

What does the "Int" stand for apart from International

Interred
Interstellar
Interstratify
Interval

The list could go on, With Interval it may be appropriate as the next stage will be to build a HS 2 Station and an autonomous people mover which will have an intermediate stop for the NEC and a stop at the Airport, but will it serve the INT station as well ?
 
Just to avoid any confusion this is from Wiki

New Street station was built in central Birmingham by the London and North Western Railway (LNWR) between 1846 and 1854, on the site of several streets in a marshy area known as "The Froggery"; it replaced several earlier rail termini on the outskirts of the centre, most notably Curzon Street, which had opened in 1838 and was no longer adequate for the level of traffic.[6] Samuel Carter, solicitor to both LNWR and the Midland Railway, managed the conveyancing.

Until 1885, the LNWR shared the station with the Midland; however, in 1885, the Midland Railway opened its own extension alongside the original station for the exclusive use of its trains, effectively creating two stations side by side. The two companies' stations were separated by a central roadway, Queens Drive. [6] Traffic grew steadily and, by 1900, New Street had an average of 40 trains an hour departing and arriving, rising to 53 trains in the peak hours.[7]
 
Are the levers around the clock for changing the tracks, like those of a signal box ? Viv.
Yes, it was the station signal box Viv. There are more levers on the left hand side of that 'platform in the air' (smoke!). The arched roof was destroyed in the WW2 blitz.
 
Just to avoid any confusion this is from Wiki

New Street station was built in central Birmingham by the London and North Western Railway (LNWR) between 1846 and 1854, on the site of several streets in a marshy area known as "The Froggery"; it replaced several earlier rail termini on the outskirts of the centre, most notably Curzon Street, which had opened in 1838 and was no longer adequate for the level of traffic.[6] Samuel Carter, solicitor to both LNWR and the Midland Railway, managed the conveyancing.

Until 1885, the LNWR shared the station with the Midland; however, in 1885, the Midland Railway opened its own extension alongside the original station for the exclusive use of its trains, effectively creating two stations side by side. The two companies' stations were separated by a central roadway, Queens Drive. [6] Traffic grew steadily and, by 1900, New Street had an average of 40 trains an hour departing and arriving, rising to 53 trains in the peak hours.[7]
hi just doing a bit of research and i wonder if anyone can confirm that apart from the froggery was the station also built on a jewish burial ground...thanks folks for any help given

lyn
 
We seem to have multiple threads for the 1850s station so maybe a mod could move the posts in this thread to the existing one below please ? Many thanks Viv

 
See post #6 and #7 here Lyn. Viv.

 
hi just doing a bit of research and i wonder if anyone can confirm that apart from the froggery was the station also built on a jewish burial ground...thanks folks for any help given

lyn
This is a quote from Chris Upton's 'History of Birmingham' (1993, p102):

"Hebrew cemeteries in Granville Street and Betholom Row (off Bath Row) were rendered unusable by the cutting of railway lines through or near them. The bodies from Granville Street were transferred to the new Hebrew cemetery at Witton; Betholom Row (which opened in 1823) remained in use for non-Birmingham Jews and indeed part of the burial ground still survives."

No mention that the station itself was built over a Hebrew burial ground.
 
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There were 20-30 burials at the Froggery, these being removed to Granville Street C1840s. These were again disinterred in the 1870s from Granville Street to Witton Cemetery.

Viv.
 
hi folks does anyone have any idea what this was please..many thanks for any help but it could be difficult to work out...what is this.jpg

lyn
 
ive no idea mort.....found in an old disused room at the end of disused corridors underneath platform 1..photos passed onto me...just curious..thought maybe the innards of some sort of generator .. i am no expert on bricks but the brickwork in the corridors look pretty original to me

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