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New Street Station From 1854 - 1966
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Looks like 'touche'!
Radiorails
master brummie
The L&NWR, later LMS, as far as I know handled cattle and livestock at Curzon Street and Banbury Street. However, Bingley Hall put on cattle shows at one time - as suggested in the newspaper clip - so maybe the animals for those shows were unloaded at New Street. They were, after all, not destined for immediate slaughter ans presumably the Curzon Street and Banbury street animals were.
This might explain the sightings in New Street.
This might explain the sightings in New Street.
mike i would have said bordesley street myself but bearing inmind of slut lane and of course around the squre mile of the hide and skin
yard there was quite afew holding penns the quarter of bordesly street
at the moment i just cannot think of the named roads closest
as a nipper at grand fatheres and my mothers house every time i had been visiting to them at week ends
the drovers always came along meriden street from the bottom of the bull ring to walk them into the hide and skin yard wich was virtualy next door to our house and coffee shop probaly about thirty yards passing the windows at the top of bordesly street there was holding penns in the lane , and only twice over the years they ever came down bordesly street and there as been an animal that escaped an odd cow \ or sheep they chased it down bordesley street then when you turn into meridan street at the lights
there was the railway arches which went went right back and it would come out of there or they would come out on meriden street
they would always come from that direction not from fazely street end thats the way i see it its the penns in slut lane and merieden stree t
and i say it would have been one or the other
my grandfather used to have axcess to the yard from his back gates of the shop and in those early years of the days
they used to come around to the shop and say ernie can we borrow jacko thats the dog rats have been seen again,,
yard there was quite afew holding penns the quarter of bordesly street
at the moment i just cannot think of the named roads closest
as a nipper at grand fatheres and my mothers house every time i had been visiting to them at week ends
the drovers always came along meriden street from the bottom of the bull ring to walk them into the hide and skin yard wich was virtualy next door to our house and coffee shop probaly about thirty yards passing the windows at the top of bordesly street there was holding penns in the lane , and only twice over the years they ever came down bordesly street and there as been an animal that escaped an odd cow \ or sheep they chased it down bordesley street then when you turn into meridan street at the lights
there was the railway arches which went went right back and it would come out of there or they would come out on meriden street
they would always come from that direction not from fazely street end thats the way i see it its the penns in slut lane and merieden stree t
and i say it would have been one or the other
my grandfather used to have axcess to the yard from his back gates of the shop and in those early years of the days
they used to come around to the shop and say ernie can we borrow jacko thats the dog rats have been seen again,,
Hi devon jim
If you came out of moor street and walk down towards digbeth and i think it was park street
the very first street you come to which i beleive in then days there was the thearter next to the old ship inn on the corner
and you walk up that road down under the railway bridge and it starts to go in an incline
they was cobbled streets in those days meaning you are walking up the hill once you cleared of the railway bridge
that you are walking under you would get the sighting of what was left of the old crooked lane
but afew yards back walking from there and cross over and walk afew more steps you would see it slut lane
In the fortys and very early fifties they was taken cattle of alsorts to the very bottom of the lane
as you walk down slut lane it was like most of the arches that was below that railway bridge
from moor street heading out it went over alot of side roads as it proceeds to bordesly statation
and of corse like meridan street there was about six arches under that bridge
meridan street is a continuation of new cannal street and bordesly street is on the very corner
as you come to the corner of the corner of bordesley street there was the dog pub ,
and directly oppersite the pub was where new cannal street started my family was at number one on the very beginning of new
cannal street and about ninety yards from that corner was the hide and skin
in slut lane there was abit of skinning done there there used to be large drunms of animal waste and blood running along there
as a nipper i did attempt to investigate by waking down but the smell and all tons of waste made it very smelly
and seeing blood by the galleond i change my mind and went down bordesly street to nans hhouse and shop
that was slut lane
If you came out of moor street and walk down towards digbeth and i think it was park street
the very first street you come to which i beleive in then days there was the thearter next to the old ship inn on the corner
and you walk up that road down under the railway bridge and it starts to go in an incline
they was cobbled streets in those days meaning you are walking up the hill once you cleared of the railway bridge
that you are walking under you would get the sighting of what was left of the old crooked lane
but afew yards back walking from there and cross over and walk afew more steps you would see it slut lane
In the fortys and very early fifties they was taken cattle of alsorts to the very bottom of the lane
as you walk down slut lane it was like most of the arches that was below that railway bridge
from moor street heading out it went over alot of side roads as it proceeds to bordesly statation
and of corse like meridan street there was about six arches under that bridge
meridan street is a continuation of new cannal street and bordesly street is on the very corner
as you come to the corner of the corner of bordesley street there was the dog pub ,
and directly oppersite the pub was where new cannal street started my family was at number one on the very beginning of new
cannal street and about ninety yards from that corner was the hide and skin
in slut lane there was abit of skinning done there there used to be large drunms of animal waste and blood running along there
as a nipper i did attempt to investigate by waking down but the smell and all tons of waste made it very smelly
and seeing blood by the galleond i change my mind and went down bordesly street to nans hhouse and shop
that was slut lane
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Canteen for servicemen at New Street. Viv.
Peg Monkey
master brummie
I lived on the Lyndhurst Estate 1959-1972 and always thought the line bordering it's western boundary was LMS, I recently discovered from a map of 1892-1908 vintage it was actually L&NWR, were they amalgamated?
Peg.
Peg.
Radiorails
master brummie
The Midland Railway, London & North Western along with some others in Northern England and Scotland were formed into the LMS in 1923. It was known as The Grouping into four large railways out of the 100+ railways that existed at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_railway_companies_involved_in_the_1923_grouping
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_railway_companies_involved_in_the_1923_grouping
New Street Station when the King and Queen visited in 1909 to open Birmingham University. Viv.
Radiorails
master brummie
That old picture could suggest a special train is due to arrive or something unusual is going to happen. I believe the left hand side is Midland Railway and the right hand side the London & North Western. The colours look correct for the L&NWR
jmadone
master brummie
I may have missed something here but I can't see any colours in this black and white picture
Radiorails
master brummie
You are presumably unacquainted with L&NWR colours.
I have chosen this as it is Handsworth, note the similarities of the coach "colours".
Here is the photo with accompanying details:
I have chosen this as it is Handsworth, note the similarities of the coach "colours".
Here is the photo with accompanying details:
jmadone
master brummie
Not being a railway buff unfortunately I am not acquainted with with the "colours" of Railway Companies. As a layman all I see is a black and white picture. Forgive my ignorance and perhaps my being a bit of a pedant but perhaps "livery" may be a better word to use to the uninitiated like myself.
The Station in 1904. What would be the road visible through the arches ? Viv.
poppy wendy
New Member
could be Stephenson street or the other side of the station which is station street.
The picture above from Vivienne 14 is captioned at www.warwickshirerailways.com as:
"View from the Queens Hotel looking across to the West end of Platform 3 showing the signals controlling access to the tunnel to Wolverhampton. To the left beneath the soot and smoke encrusted glazed gable of the original train shed can be seen the columns supporting the 'Paxton roof' named after Joseph Paxton, gardener to the Duke of Devonshire. This extra roof was required because under the LNWR's original Act the station had to be completely under cover. On the right of Platform 1 in the foreground is the ramp leading to the subway which was extended beyond the station to provide direct access to the Post "
That would make the road in the background Queen's Drive.
"View from the Queens Hotel looking across to the West end of Platform 3 showing the signals controlling access to the tunnel to Wolverhampton. To the left beneath the soot and smoke encrusted glazed gable of the original train shed can be seen the columns supporting the 'Paxton roof' named after Joseph Paxton, gardener to the Duke of Devonshire. This extra roof was required because under the LNWR's original Act the station had to be completely under cover. On the right of Platform 1 in the foreground is the ramp leading to the subway which was extended beyond the station to provide direct access to the Post "
That would make the road in the background Queen's Drive.
Here is PJ Norton's photo from 1962 clearly showing the stepped wall with pillars on the left, i.e. the other side of the wall in the old LNWR photo. Queens Drive had a characteristic dip so as to go under the footbridge. This view is (very) aproximately the opposite to that of the LNWR one.
DavidGrain
master brummie
You need to remember that New Street Station was two separate stations with Queens Drive separating them. The Stephenson Street side was London and North Western Railway (trains to Coventry, Wolverhampton beyond) and the Station Street side was Midland Railway (trains to Derby, Leicester, Gloucester and beyond). In 1923 these companies merged into the London, Midland and Scottish Railway.
devonjim
master brummie
Found this 1920's picture of New St station. Station St. bottom right, Navigation St.(amended!) half way up on left. Surprised to see the east/west façade half way across the station, I suppose this got flattened during the war.
I think this confirms that the road in #214 is Queens Drive.
I think this confirms that the road in #214 is Queens Drive.
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DavidGrain
master brummie
Actually, Devonjim, the road halfway up on the left is Navigation Street and Pinfold Street. This map from 1920 shows roughly the area covered by your photo. I presume that the East/West facade that you refer to must be the buildings set back from the Station Street frontage. I have no idea what they are as I do not remember them.
