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Great Hampton Row

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Lyn
West’s 1830 directory lists Henry Woodfield as at Colmore Lodge
In the 1855 Whites directory the occupants of Colmore lodge are listed as :
Bentley William, currier, Colmore lodge, St. George's terrace
Partridge William, carpenter and builder, Colmore Lodge, Gt. Hampton row
So either the terrace changed its name or possibly St Georges terrace is the two houses (probably the lodge split) at right angle to Colmore terrace on the 1889 map
In Dix’s 1858 directory Partridge still seems to be there, though the lodge is not named

In 1862, Partridge is not listed, but a William Bentley is listed as brassfounder (bit different from currier) at 94 Gt Hampton row, which is two doors down from the entrance to the terrace
 
thanks mike and yes i understand what you are saying...where would we be without your input...

thanks again mike....really appreciate it...

lyn
 
Thanks Mikejee for all the & maps & photo's could i imposse on you and ask if you could show where #13 greathampton row as my grt grandfather thomas mayo lived there

Regards Pete ex pat
 
The position of no 13 Gt Hampton row is in red below

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On the 1841 census the young Joseph Lucas,then aged 7 lived in Gt Hampton Row and his address is just 7 dwellings from Colmore Lodge.Chances are that he lived in Colmore terrace.moss
 
This extract from an Evening Mail article about the origins of Summer Lane mentions Colmore Terrace and Lodge. Only 5 dwellings in the terrace in 1813 according to this. Viv.

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That's very interesting Viv,so it was probably occupied by The Birmingham Settlement at the time the picture was taken.moss
 
mossg said:
On the 1841 census the young Joseph Lucas,then aged 7 lived in Gt Hampton Row and his address is just 7 dwellings from Colmore Lodge.Chances are that he lived in Colmore terrace.moss
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well how interesting moss..fancy that...

thanks viv for that snippet..again interesting stuff...

lyn
 
Interestingly, according to the St. George's baptism records, in 1825 the Minister of St. George's Church lived in Colmore Terrace - John Garbett. During the 1830s the terrace was occupied by some quite 'well-to-do' people. These included (as already mentioned by Mikejee) Henry Woolfield who was a Factor - i.e. Broker - living at the Lodge in 1835. George Gibbons, a Merchant, was living in Colmore Terrace in 1835 and Richard Wathew, an Architect and Builder, was in Colmore Terrace in 1836. Seems to me that the terrace was a very respectable place to live in the 1820s - 1840s. Also metioned in the St. George's baptism records of 1830 is a 'Colmore House' home of a Merchant called Mr Shaw. The house was in the name of the Shaw family from at least 1823 (if not earlier). It was in the St. George's parish, so where was this? Never heard of it before. Viv.
 
My aunt and uncle - Florence and Ernest Turner had two shops close, as I now recall, to your gt.grandrents home in the 30's to the 50's. The shops were next door to each other and Florence sold wool for knitting and Ernest had a sweet shop. Who knows if Esther knitted then she could have got her skeins from Flo. Will
 
A.Willoughby said:
My aunt and uncle - Florence and Ernest Turner had two shops close, as I now recall, to your gt.grandrents home in the 30's to the 50's. The shops were next door to each other and Florence sold wool for knitting and Ernest had a sweet shop. Who knows if Esther knitted then she could have got her skeins from Flo. Will
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They may well have done just that according to the 1911 census both my grt grandparents traded in Hardware and china goods both on their own account so perhaps the also had !!!!

Regards Pete ex pat
 
Hi I was wondering if anybody might have any information in relation to the pub at 76 Great Hampton Row. It was owned by George & John Kendrick brewers (my Great Grandfather and his brother).
It was called the Prince of Wales on the 1901 census and John Kendrick is listed as living there at the time.

Thanks
Tim
 
Hi Lyn
I've just joined the forum and finding it really fascinating.
My GGGgrandfather Joseph owned the brewery on Great Hampton Row called the Minerva. He was born @ 1813 and is one of several family brewers in the area.
Did you say you might have a picture....... Of the pub....... No doubt linked I hope
Would love to see it
Many thanks
Jane Fulford
 
hi jane and welcome to the forum..ive not heard of the minerva brewery but maybe someone on the forum can help you with that one..mike is very good at pinpointing buildings on his maps but here is a pic of the minerva vaults pub gt hampton row..the building is still there but as far as i know no longer a pub for a few years now...

lyn

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Hi Jane
The Minerva pub is shown on the c 1889 map below. In the middle of the 19[SUP]th[/SUP] century many of the larger pubs brewed their own beer on the premises, often in an outhouse, and were known as retail brewers. I think this is what has probably occurred with the Minerva. I can find no mention of a minerva brewery in the Great Hampton Row area, but it is likely that the Minerva brewed its own beer, and had a small brewing facility on the premises., probably in the small bit sticking out at the back.
Having said that, there is mention (see cutting below ) of a Minerva Brewery in Beak St. I can find no mention of it in directories of about that time, but The Lamp pub is at no 20, and might well have had a small brewery attached. I don’t know if this had any connection to the Minerva pub.
Mike

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mike thanks for reminding me about the lamp pub that was on the opposite side to the minerva...i meant to investigate this one ages back ..i believe that the lamp building is now or was a cash and carry place and behind the name of the company sign you can still see the old tiles from the pub...really must have a closer look at this one very soon...

lyn
 
mikejee said:
Lyn
I hope i haven't confused you. the Lamp pub i mention is in Beak St
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dont take much to confuse me mike..no its ok but there was a pub on the other side to the minerva in fact i think i started a thread for it a couple of years back..i thought it was called the lamp but i may have this wrong...will need to try and find the thread...
 
By 1890 there were two Minerva's, one at 114/115 Great Barr Street and the other at 17 Great Hampton Row (also 2 in 1892/95/97)
 
Heh Topsy any more info on the Minerva or pics would be fab. GGgrandfather owned the Minerva Brewery.
I look forward to hearing from you
Jane fulford
 
Lindyloo your a star!
I woke up to see the aerial map of where the brewery was kindly offered by another poster.
It left me wondering re the positioning of the brewer........ And someone else remembers drinking at the pub. I did not
Know whether they were separate, the same or wot.
All is revealed... Thank you so much
Jane Fulford
You don't know which of the other brewers are relatives and how you know ?
Jx
 
Hi Jane, I'm glad that my info at #136 helped. The only way I would have any idea as to the relationship of the names mentioned would be to actually go through the tree. If I get chance later I will have a look at the census for 1841 to see if there are any clues.

It is always worth taking time to check back on the thread to see who has posted what and also to note the date on which the post was made. In Topsy's case it was back in May last year, so to post a query for that post, it is a good idea to use the "Reply With Quote" facility in the grey bar at the bottom of each post or the post number.

I believe Astoness posted the picture of the Minerva at post #130 and mikejee posted the map at #132.
Welcome to the Forum by the way, it takes a little while to find your way round but help is always at hand should you need it from the wonderful members on here.
 
thanks so much again Lyn
You guys are so good at this. I'm having teething diffs as you can see. what where when as you can see but I'm loving the info. I finally followed the trail to the full extent today.
I've got lots on my family tree now and I'm pulling it all tog .... Slowly slowly.
My family went off to Manchester to carry on brewing...... Most notably William Henry Fulford 1845 to 1909.
Is there a sim website for Manchester. I wonder if they have pics and info there.
I now feel like I'm defecting a bit but I guess it's where the story leads
Thanks
Jane fulford
 
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