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Gosta Green Through Duddeston

Re: great lister street

Derek. Do you remember the wine shop two doors away from Wimbush's ?
Not that I was a wine drinker, it was the centre piece in the window always there advertising Sandman's Port. A black figure in a very long cape and a black hat. Just been looking on the WWW but no sign of it.
 
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Hi Ger,

You wont find any link typing in Sandman, it was Sandemans..and here it is in all its glory.
https://www.sandeman.eu/
I'm so pleased there are other Nechellites, I thought me, Chris and Cromwell were the only ones..
 
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Kandor. Thank you so much. Sorry I clicked on the site and could not help but laugh, next to the enter button they PUT the message " Sorry You Are Not Of Legal Drinking Age " I feel like Victor Meldrew I DONT BELEIVE IT I am nearly 70, how old do you have to be???????
 
i do as it happens been racking my brains to think of the people who ran/owned the shop.
it backed on to our yard we all shared the toilets up the yard,
i used as you,ve seen used to help Fred the boot mender / English leather,he was a truly grt bloke god rest his sole,he used to cycle every day from lifford lane to grt lister st rain or shine,behind the bredon cross,
it,s on here somewhere you more that likely posted it the sewing machine shop was there as well all the shops are listed.
grt find kandor,was it you that new peter Higgins in Cromwell st??
catch you later regards Derek.
 
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Derek. Cannot say as I knew them, I was just fascinated by the Sandeman Figure every time I passed by the window, but not so much as the Hank Janson books at a shop further along the street. ( The only time I was ever into reading.):D:D:D:D
 
try these for size mate.
detective-fiction.com
amazing what you can find?
regards derek.
 
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I did know Peter very well, he and Les Bevan were my best friends.
Peter and I had a great love of Superman comics, we shared and read each others stuff for many years.
The parents moved from Cromwell St to Revesby walk where they continued trading for many years, I'm not sure if they're alive now.
Although their shop is long gone.
I do know the parents lived in Wallbank Road by Ward End Park.
Peter became a Teacher, I became a raggy bummed Plumber, Les Bevan became a hairdresser.
Neither of them ever married, ;)
 
very interesting kandor, i used to live opp the Higgins shop,in Cromwell st
new him well we had some good times. i can see Ronnie /Daphne now and of coarse peter,the Wallace's and the preece next door,i posted before that i got knocked out in there back yard one day when we were messing around with his dads old boxing gloves on,by a lad who lived down the bottom of Cromwell st in the flats,i used to help him do his paper round.
i hopeless with years i must have been 12/13 when we left i was at locko from infant to juniors then halfway through seniors at Charles Arthur st before we left and moved to south Yardley area.
where did you live where did you go to school and can you remember what year that all was please??
 
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Derek. We were told off ( or at least given a lecture ) by Mr Jones the headmaster of Loxton Street about reading comics, Reading the balloons that came out of their mouths he would say. So I progressed to Hank Janson books but he did'nt know that.
 
What a great photo of inside Loxton St School (I was there the year it closed, class 1.1)

The years I was at School?
I started in 1957, left Cromwell St in 63, moved to Loxton St for a year then started Duddeston Manor Bi-lateral on Sept 3rd 1964.
We lived opposite the Gunmakers pub in Cromwell St then moved up to Ashted Row, just up from the Ashted Picture house.
 
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Being as I was brought up as a Roman Candle I went to St Vincent’s School, Vauxhall Grove. Therefore I know little of Loxton St School, but I do remember going to an after school club there a couple of times a week.

It was great; we used to get to play with things like Lego and Plasticine. Whatever you were playing with it was soon shaped or built into a machine gun by the boys, or a doll or a house by the girls. The best thing was that the lads used to get to play a few games of British Bulldogs in the hall.

The trouble I used to get into, when I returned home. My clothes were never haute couture to begin with, but after a few games a Loxton St playing BB they were fit for the rag bin. Having all the buttons ripped off your shirt was a minor event, it was more likely to be ripped off your back.

The chances that you returned home with a bloodied nose or a black eye were about even, I suppose this is why these sorts of games are not played in the schools any longer.

pmc1947
 
Re: bloomsbury street

I lived in Windsor St, my DOB is Jan 1950, so I remember as a small child from around 1953 to 1955. Not too many memories except that there was a a gas light, one room downstairs including a sink. One meory is that I snuck out from the upstairs bedroom window and tried to reach the drainpipe to climb down, I dont know if i succeeded but i did end up on the ground outside and then didn't know how to get back in. the nextdoor neighbour took me in until parents came home.
 
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Derek, what a fabulous photo of the inside of Loxton St. School. I remember it well, but I never thought for a minute that I would ever see a picture of it. I spent the years between 1954-64 there, so it means a lot to me to be able to see it again. If you have any more, please post them. Regards, Barry.
 
pmc1947. Phil I remember going with a mate to his catholic school , I am sure it was the same one. As we entered there was a niche in the wall that contained Holy Water, so you dipped your fingers in it and made the sign of the cross on your forehead then as you walked towards the alter inside, you stopped , knelt down and did the sign of the cross with your right hand.
 
Ernie,

The school is still there today I believe. I have to be honest I didn't rate it much as a school. The teachers mostly priests and nuns were much, much too strict and they all knew, what the cane was used for.

When I got to 11 years of age I refused to go to a catholic school any longer and ended up going to a school in Balsall Heath. I couldn't be having all that kneeling and praying any longer, not to mention being whacked with the cane every five minutes.

Phil
 
pmc1947. Phil I know they were probably very strict in your religion, now in mine I can only remember ever going to Harvest Festivals and everyone seemed to take a Marrow. I can only guess what those old folks thought that were presented with them after the service.
 
Ernie,
Re 40 Duddeston Mill Rd.
I had a look in 1946 Kelly's and there is no 40 Duddeston Mill listed, so at that time it was probably just a house. I then looked in the 1913 edition and found living there an Arthur Dare living at no 40 and he is listed as a beer retailer.

As to the location no 40 was uphill of Cato street going up towards Great Francis St on the opposite side to the station. So it was no where near Devon St. I am afraid I don't remember having a photo of this location, but I will keep looking.

Sorry I can't help more,

Phil
 
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Phil. I thank you for your help, by reading what you have said I realize that I am getting place of births and Census ( Devon Street ) confused so your pic could well be Number 40 Duddeston Mill Road. If it is its a GEM.
 
ernie,phil,ta for input.i went out with a girl who lived in duddeston rd,by the chip shop,top of deven st,a nice girl they was poor like us,well,one day she invited me in,and being all nerves i sat down,well what a shock
i went down quicker than expected,my knees were around my ears and my bum inside the settee there was no bottom in it only a cover,over it.did i feel a fool.bless her.she was more embarased than me. pete
 
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Pete. I guess it was the tender trap you managed to escape from.

There you see Pete, not everything as it appears to be.
 
too true ernie.there was a few shops in that road by devon st,2 chip shops but i can not remember the others. pete
 
Pete. Its funny but also sad. Doing Family History you can find a lot about them and where they lived ( happy to find it but sad that it was not known long before when they were alive.) Places now come to life from records but sadly disappeared and long gone.
 
ernie.it is sad some times to dig in the past.and other times nice to remember.my little gray cells have never worked so hard since i joined this forum. pete
 
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Cheers Derek. Im not sure whether it was me or not, but as you say, were all getting older, so maybe the old memory is playing up. And yes, I did see the picture that Gerr22van put up. I mentioned a few years ago on this forum, that I have a couple of photos of Locco, just as it was being demolished. As yet I still havent found them, but I do know they definately exist, because I took them from the kitchen window of 27 Queens Tower. where we lived for many years. Which over-looked Locco. Anyway, regards for now. Barry.
hi bazz just having a look through out beloved duddeston thread,
don,t know if i asked you before but do you remember a lad getting killed outside i asume your flats if it was opp locko,one lunch time his name was cook,and he was as you did hang on the back of a dusbin,lorry and fell under the wheels and the rest is history?
what a waste at a very early age.
catch you later derek..
 
I have re-posted this Photograph for the reason that it says that Queen's Tower is being constructed in the background 1953. Am I right in thinking Queens Tower was the first high rise to go up in Great Lister Street ?
I believe that the road in the Foreground is Bloomsbury Street and the street running to the left is Lupin Street. The construction in the distance top right was Aston University and not Queen's Tower as stated.

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GER22VAN.ernie,been looking at the pic for ages,the only place i can remember them brs trucks was in lupin st erea,i wonder were the pic was taken,it was high. pete
 
Pete. I guess it must have been taken from an aircraft.
Its in a book by Carl Chinn title " Homes For People" 100 years of Council Housing in Birmingham. ISBN : 0 7093 0172 3 anyone wanting the book if it is still in print just quotes that number to be sure they get the right book.
 
ger22van.ernie if we could find out were the tyre co was it would be a good start,the only tyre co i remember was lodge tyre.i thought queens
tower was older than that ernie,we played in there as kids,as already posted. pete
 
Pete. Phil had said in another post about where the tyre firm was, but to me those roads appear to me as I have said. I could be wrong and its not the first time. Aston University was opened about 1955 and Queen's Tower may have been about the same time.
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