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ernei if the road going to the left is bloosbury st.lupin opersit then looking at pic,queens tower and lester st is at eleven oclock looking at the tyre co
got to go now my pills are working,nos da all. pete
 
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Pete. I know that I could still be wrong but to follow the row of houses in the bottom right would take you to Hyde Park Corner , To cross the road in the Bottom Right Corner would lead to Loxton Street.
I just posted it to see if others could see it as I do.
 
hi, does any one have a pic of western street nechells ,to show thanks everyone ,for a facinating look at all the photos and a great time remenicing,great effort, thanks again to all.harley
 
No, the pic could NOT have been taken from Queens Tower, SOUTH Tower maybe..it's certainly in the right spot to do it from.
 
harley

Can you just remind me where Western Street Nechells was, as it must have gone pre 1960's. As I am unable to find any trace on my 1960's map.

Phil
 
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Kandor. If you are correct, Then I am correct in my assumptions. Many Thanks for your post.
harley. I guess you mean Weston Street which is just off Bloomsbury Street.
pmc1947. Phil I had to look twice to find it.
 
Ok..You are looking at a pic taken from South Tower, that much I'm pretty sure of,..the photo is way too low for a plane, but perfect, off say, the top of the 12th floor.

On the very left and just out of camera shot is the old Co-op which was on the corner of Bloomsbury St/Newdegate St.
In Newdegate St about 30 yards down on the left, stood the BRS (I know because I helped strip the place of all its lead)..Newdegate St was a dead end, the Railway passed across at the bottom.
On the left two thirds up, you can see the end of a White house..this pic is already on here somewhere as was taken in Ashted Row..move along Ashted Row to the right and up you'll come to the Ashted Picture house, near the corner of Willis St/Ashted Row, further along and on the left you'll come up to the old Church yard at Gt Brook St/Barrack St.
The road at the bottom running up to the right is, I think Heneage St..if it isn't, it certainly runs into it, but I'm willing to bet it IS Heneage...either that or the next one up on the left certainly is..
Paines (or Paynes) the Chippy is just out of sight on the left, before you got to Newdegate, there was several shops there including a paper shop..
Now I'm pretty much out of ideas here..hey, I was only a kid.
Hope it helps.

Just had a thought! did the BRS have TWO entrances? if so, it makes a lot of sense..
 
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Weston Street at top of map.
 

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Kandor. Thank you for your post. That street which runs parallel to Bloomsbury Street has a corner shop or pub, so Kelly's may help with it. I think Heneage Street is the next one along. If we are both looking in the same direction it makes the building at the top Aston University.
 
Kandor

I can't see the logic in this, for what you are saying to be true. Lodge Tyre Ltd must have been located where I have marked with X on the map. Yet Kelly's locateds them on Bloomsbury St between Claverdon St and Saltley Rd on the same side as Claverdon St.

It just doesn't match up does it?

Phil
 
Sorry I seem to have started something again here, Phil I know you had said it before and I do not wish to offend you in any way whatsoever. Please accept my apologies if I am wrong.
 
Ernie,

I am not in any way offended, and you must forgive me if my manner gives that impression. I would like to get to the bottom of this as much as anybody, and to be honest I am mystified.

Its just that after 50 odd years our memory's are not as good as we think they are, and I will be the first one to admit that.

So when the memory fails, the next best thing is logic, and logic isn't working here.

Phil
 
ger22van.great stuff.i am still looking as well,as far a i far as i remember lodge was on bloosbury st.did bloosbury not split by the road.and continue by the flats pete
 
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Your 'X' would be behind the photographer.... a good half mile behind..
The pic taken is looking towards the old Vauxhall dairy.
Simple really, the old road layouts are almost still there, just different names and the odd added bend.
 
Kandor

The trouble with that theory, The Lodge Tyre Co shown on the photo was in the area of where the cross is marked close to Saltley Rd and not up towards the Junction Public House at the junction of Bloomsbury St and Great Francis St

Phil
 
and the problem with ALL your theories are that there is no where else that pic could have come from but South Tower...
So there!
 
I don't know, there were plenty of Church and School Towers in the vicinity it could have been taken from one of them. South Tower dates from 53 doesen't it. it does look to be a bit earlier than that.

Phil
 
No, I dont think it does and no towers were around that spot where the picture was taken, I lived there until '63, it didn't change much until around 1960.
 
I lived in the area from 53 until 69 on and off, but I still can't remember if Loxton St School had a tower, That would be about the right place wouldn't it?

Phil
 
This is my interpretation on the photo, seeing as how I have not made any suggestion as yet. I think it is pre South Tower and it is taken from Bloomsbury St Library tower. The road going off to the right is Bloomsbury St going up to meet with Great Francis St and the road running left to right is Saltley Rd. This puts Lodge Tyre in the correct position. So what you see in the background is indeed BirminghamCity.

I of course am willing to accept that I could be wrong in this assumption and I most likely am, but I think this analysis as good as anything else that we have come up between us so far.

Phil
 
St James's Place 1905, across the road from the bottom of Barrack Street.
Nechells St James Place.JPG
 
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Ernie,

We didn't loose much when they demolished those did we? I wouldn't have fancied living in those houses with those massive ropey old chimney stacks over my head with great heavy steam engines racing past all hours of the day and night. They didn't use cement in those days only sand and lime.

Phil
 
Phil. Quite right, but as lots would say they were probably Happy Times as everyone helped everyone else which would make all the difference in those conditions. As you know we only remember the park and the diary across the road. Something gone of a past generation.
 
Same as yourself Ernie I don't ever remember houses being in them roads, just the park, the co-op, the maisonettes and my old School St Vincents.

Phil
 
Relative to the times, I think. Pleasure was a simpler thing in those days, entertainment self made. When most members of a (large) family would have to finish education early, and go to work six days a week to keep them all fed, I imagine they would savour simple pleasures more.
Thrust them into todays world of television, loud music, huge cinemas, fast traffic and holidays abroad and they'd be scared out of their wits - it would be as foreign to them as travelling to Mars at the speed of light would be to us.
 
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It was not a material world in those days. All that people wanted was to stay out of the workhouse ( most dreaded to end up in there ) also to keep a roof over their head and keep the family together.
Lloyd. You pipped me at the post.
 
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Happiness is relative, if you have never known better, living in a hovel is preferable to the workhouse or sleeping in the gutter. As long as people aspire then it is acceptable.

Phil
 
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