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Gosta Green Through Duddeston
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Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Re: Gosta Green
Ernie,
The baked potato & burger carts, all came from a yard at the back of this hostel in Fox Street. They were all owned by an Italian chap, I think his name was Ledo or something like that.
I knew quite a few of the lads that worked selling the hot potato's and burgers. they had quite a good thing going. After paying for all the stock they split the profits 50-50.
Phil
Ernie,
The baked potato & burger carts, all came from a yard at the back of this hostel in Fox Street. They were all owned by an Italian chap, I think his name was Ledo or something like that.
I knew quite a few of the lads that worked selling the hot potato's and burgers. they had quite a good thing going. After paying for all the stock they split the profits 50-50.
Phil
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I have a lot of research that I should like to put on this thread.
Did you know where Upper Gorsty Green and Lower Gorsty Green where in 1758 ?
Gosta Green of coarse, there were a lot of gorse bushes growing on top of that hill many many years ago and thats how it became known as Gosta Green afterwards.
Did you know?
That where Lawley Street goods yard was next to Lander Street.
that it was the first railway station because they could not get Curzon Street finished on time. Lawley Street goods depot was formerly Derby Railway Station.
Did you know where Upper Gorsty Green and Lower Gorsty Green where in 1758 ?
Gosta Green of coarse, there were a lot of gorse bushes growing on top of that hill many many years ago and thats how it became known as Gosta Green afterwards.
Did you know?
That where Lawley Street goods yard was next to Lander Street.
that it was the first railway station because they could not get Curzon Street finished on time. Lawley Street goods depot was formerly Derby Railway Station.
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mw0njm.
A Brummie Dude
GER22VAN.i thought that might be were the name come from.looking forward to the history when you post it ernie.all i know about gorsty is it looks nice in bloom.
there was a prog on radio 4.about the viaduct there,they could not permision to connect the rails together from one company to another.but they caried on building hoping that becouse it is there the other company would give way and allow conection.But they come unstuck.so the viaduct remains unused. pete
there was a prog on radio 4.about the viaduct there,they could not permision to connect the rails together from one company to another.but they caried on building hoping that becouse it is there the other company would give way and allow conection.But they come unstuck.so the viaduct remains unused. pete
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Re: Gosta Green
Hello Pete, I feel quite sure there was an Horse Trough on Gosta Green, and I think the very last one I saw was at the junction of Cattel Road and Coventry Road. That was a lovely reminder Pete, they were so common place at one time, Just proves how much they relied on horses all those years ago and I think it must have been early 1960's when horses gave way to mechanical transport.
Pete. Do you remember the Charabang's was years ago, the posh name today are Coaches.
Hello Pete, I feel quite sure there was an Horse Trough on Gosta Green, and I think the very last one I saw was at the junction of Cattel Road and Coventry Road. That was a lovely reminder Pete, they were so common place at one time, Just proves how much they relied on horses all those years ago and I think it must have been early 1960's when horses gave way to mechanical transport.
Pete. Do you remember the Charabang's was years ago, the posh name today are Coaches.
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Pomgolian
Kiwi Brummie
Re: Gosta Green
Here is Gosta Green with the Horse Trough at the top right of the photo. Aston St is coming in from the left, Aston Rd is going off to the top of the pic' and Lister St to the top right. Woodcock St is going off the side right, where the people are walking off the pic'.
Pom :angel:
Here is Gosta Green with the Horse Trough at the top right of the photo. Aston St is coming in from the left, Aston Rd is going off to the top of the pic' and Lister St to the top right. Woodcock St is going off the side right, where the people are walking off the pic'.
Pom :angel:
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brian baker
master brummie
hi brilliant thread i found it absolutly facinating this is what i have been waiting for many thanks to all who have contrebuted can i ask is there any way i can copy this thead to disk or printer so i can study it more
many thanks
great map i was going to ask anyone if they could get me the same map must have read my mind us brummies i ask ya
Brian Baker (then brian cartwright)
many thanks
great map i was going to ask anyone if they could get me the same map must have read my mind us brummies i ask ya
great picture iused to go to that school but the other side lingard street from 1945 to 1952
Brian Baker (then brian cartwright)
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brian baker. I had even thought of that myself but not too sure if it is permissible. I do hope that it is possible as I would like to add it to my Family History.
Pete. Yes I still smell those bake potatoes from years ago when I bake some in the oven and they get burnt and the taste is great too. Just pleased they did not microwave them in days gone by, otherwise we might never have known what a real bake potato was like.
Pete. Yes I still smell those bake potatoes from years ago when I bake some in the oven and they get burnt and the taste is great too. Just pleased they did not microwave them in days gone by, otherwise we might never have known what a real bake potato was like.
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pmc1947. Phil not seen that one before, a brarma if that the correct spelling meaning excellent. So that is Linguard Street to the right and Goodrick Street to the left. Thank you for the Photograph Phil, I had been along there a few times but it was going out of " My World " as I would say.
This Photograph was taken during the war years, I can just about remember the workmen coming to demolish the brick and concrete covers over the cellar openings. Guess it was to prevent the cellar exit from becoming totally blocked after any air raid and made easier rescue of those trapped.
Old lady Green with her daughter.
The house in the distance with the bricked up window is house number 35 and next to it is the entrance to 13 court where I lived.
Notice the rememberance on the wall.
I could tell you the names of the people who lived in those house but not sure if it would be right.
Old lady Green with her daughter.
The house in the distance with the bricked up window is house number 35 and next to it is the entrance to 13 court where I lived.
Notice the rememberance on the wall.
I could tell you the names of the people who lived in those house but not sure if it would be right.
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Now this one should arouse a little interest if I tell you its Great Lister Street.
Can you see Cromwell Street, Willis Street / Lupin Street still has the fish and chip shop on the corner and across the road the peck where we played marlies so long ago and a lot of the shops in Great Lister Street before they all disappear.
Where is your house Derek ?
Better Than Any Google Image would you say.
Saltley road at the top of the Photograph. Locko still there to the right of the high rise.
Don't forget to second click with your mouse.
Can you see Cromwell Street, Willis Street / Lupin Street still has the fish and chip shop on the corner and across the road the peck where we played marlies so long ago and a lot of the shops in Great Lister Street before they all disappear.
Where is your house Derek ?
Better Than Any Google Image would you say.
Saltley road at the top of the Photograph. Locko still there to the right of the high rise.
Don't forget to second click with your mouse.
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Window Tax
1696-1851
In 1696 in the reign of William III another form of taxation came into force this was known as the “Window Tax” and would last until 1851.
In 1696 there was a financial crisis created by a growing inflation caused by the many conflicts both in Ireland and on the continent. One of the forms of taxation created to help pay the debt was known as the “Window Tax”.
By 1700 reforms had taken place by slashing taxes, auditing the accounts showing irregularities, and finally the nine-year war had come to an end in 1697, but the “Window Tax” would stay for another fifty one years.
The tax would be paid on a house of more than six windows. Unfortunately none of these records appeared to have survived, one way for a person to by pass the tax was to brick up one or two windows over the stated six, even today on some of the older houses the bricked up windows are still there.
In 1792 houses with 7-9 windows had to pay a tax of 2 shillings, and those people with property containing 10-19 windows would pay a tax of4 shillings.
In 1825 the number of widows taxable went from six to eight windows. The Window Tax would be replaced in 1851 with a tax called House Duty.
THE COLEMAN STREET PHOTOGRAPH.
It will be noticed that some windows are bricked up, this was because of the window tax which became known as DAYLIGHT ROBBERY.
1696-1851
In 1696 in the reign of William III another form of taxation came into force this was known as the “Window Tax” and would last until 1851.
In 1696 there was a financial crisis created by a growing inflation caused by the many conflicts both in Ireland and on the continent. One of the forms of taxation created to help pay the debt was known as the “Window Tax”.
By 1700 reforms had taken place by slashing taxes, auditing the accounts showing irregularities, and finally the nine-year war had come to an end in 1697, but the “Window Tax” would stay for another fifty one years.
The tax would be paid on a house of more than six windows. Unfortunately none of these records appeared to have survived, one way for a person to by pass the tax was to brick up one or two windows over the stated six, even today on some of the older houses the bricked up windows are still there.
In 1792 houses with 7-9 windows had to pay a tax of 2 shillings, and those people with property containing 10-19 windows would pay a tax of4 shillings.
In 1825 the number of widows taxable went from six to eight windows. The Window Tax would be replaced in 1851 with a tax called House Duty.
THE COLEMAN STREET PHOTOGRAPH.
It will be noticed that some windows are bricked up, this was because of the window tax which became known as DAYLIGHT ROBBERY.
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dereklcg
master brummie
Better Than Any Google Image would you say.
Saltley road at the top of the Photograph. Locko still there to the right of the high rise.
Don't forget to second click with your mouse.[/quote]
you are the man ger22van, i can see st Mathews and the crossing,and wimbushes on the corner my house i think i can make out the phone box and thats where i was as near as damit.
have you been looking all this time? i can see locko,history is a fantastic thing time has not forgot i,m elated mate. i,ll scan some more and see what else i can remember,thanks ger22van. regards derek.
Saltley road at the top of the Photograph. Locko still there to the right of the high rise.
Don't forget to second click with your mouse.[/quote]
you are the man ger22van, i can see st Mathews and the crossing,and wimbushes on the corner my house i think i can make out the phone box and thats where i was as near as damit.have you been looking all this time? i can see locko,history is a fantastic thing time has not forgot i,m elated mate. i,ll scan some more and see what else i can remember,thanks ger22van. regards derek.
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The Great Lister Street photograph, I was looking for those huge piles of coke or coal they used to have to the right of Saltley bridge. I wondered if they were just out of view or had the use of it all declined declined by then ?
I remember large tracts of land in the 1940's, not all as bomb pecks which I imaged generalized any waste ground or derelict building. These would be housing and workshops that had deteriorated beyond further use.
One of these large tracts was across from Adam Street to Richard Street running behind Dartmouth Street school. This area had appeared on early Census's as dwelling houses. Another large tract was from Great Lister Street
going right back to Lord Street. One other that comes to mind is across the road from Loxton Street school, all the beginnings of the end of an era.
This what I remember in the Late 1940's early 1950's, so if there are any older brummies out there that remember how these waste lands were created please feel free to post your memories on them or any others of the Duddeston and Nechells area.
I remember large tracts of land in the 1940's, not all as bomb pecks which I imaged generalized any waste ground or derelict building. These would be housing and workshops that had deteriorated beyond further use.
One of these large tracts was across from Adam Street to Richard Street running behind Dartmouth Street school. This area had appeared on early Census's as dwelling houses. Another large tract was from Great Lister Street
going right back to Lord Street. One other that comes to mind is across the road from Loxton Street school, all the beginnings of the end of an era.
This what I remember in the Late 1940's early 1950's, so if there are any older brummies out there that remember how these waste lands were created please feel free to post your memories on them or any others of the Duddeston and Nechells area.
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My Gran's sinking house.
Looking at a map one day I realizes that there had at one time been a house at the side of my Grandmothers house ( Number 5 house 13 court ) Coleman Street. This property had been demolished of course, Well in my early years it was noticed that the quarry tiled floor in the " Pantry " as we called it ( where the gas cooker and sink lived ) was beginning to sink down. Well what was happening was that there was a four feet drop the other side of the wall and when the houses were first built that building propped my Gran's House up, so when they demolished it there was nothing to support the house with a four foot drop at the end. Workmen came and put a large wooden bracing structure against the wall to hold the side of the house up for about another ten years.
They knew what they were doing when they first built the house at the end of my Gran's house but forgot when they demolished it.
Looking at a map one day I realizes that there had at one time been a house at the side of my Grandmothers house ( Number 5 house 13 court ) Coleman Street. This property had been demolished of course, Well in my early years it was noticed that the quarry tiled floor in the " Pantry " as we called it ( where the gas cooker and sink lived ) was beginning to sink down. Well what was happening was that there was a four feet drop the other side of the wall and when the houses were first built that building propped my Gran's House up, so when they demolished it there was nothing to support the house with a four foot drop at the end. Workmen came and put a large wooden bracing structure against the wall to hold the side of the house up for about another ten years.
They knew what they were doing when they first built the house at the end of my Gran's house but forgot when they demolished it.
dereklcg
master brummie
hi ya,ger22van, i can see all the way to the gate saltley Malvina rd bloomsbury st library,and lots of other places in between,when we moved out to south Yardley i worked at canning's little Barr street, then lawley st cooksons portable buildings,then when we got married moved to bromford lane, worked in Arley road off Aston church rd,herringshaw steel,then we lived in chelmsley wood so i was not that far from my roots so to speak until we moved to Tamworth.
even then we moved back to chelmsley,but then we moved over to redditch and that was it i never really got to see the decline of the old end,such is life it,s great though to relive with such as yourself can bring it back to life you all do a cracking job,a bit like tesco every little helps,
cheers mate regards derek.
even then we moved back to chelmsley,but then we moved over to redditch and that was it i never really got to see the decline of the old end,such is life it,s great though to relive with such as yourself can bring it back to life you all do a cracking job,a bit like tesco every little helps,
cheers mate regards derek.
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Cookson's Portable Buildings.
Derek. Good morning mate. You worked for Cookson's Portable Buildings ?
I have a shed stands in the garden that you may have made.
It must have been back in the 1960's made of cedar wood and never been any trouble, I probably still have the receipt for it around somewhere.
Measuring 10' X 8' l have looked after it well.
Derek. Good morning mate. You worked for Cookson's Portable Buildings ?
I have a shed stands in the garden that you may have made.
It must have been back in the 1960's made of cedar wood and never been any trouble, I probably still have the receipt for it around somewhere.
Measuring 10' X 8' l have looked after it well.
dereklcg
master brummie
morning to you ger22van,
could well have delivered it i was employed as a drivers mate way back when,and we also in a lot of cases erect them all over the place.
had some great times messing about as you do we met some characters,and worked with some,we used to have a stand at bingly hall every year,and the one day i was painting the back boards and this geezer came up to me and said have you got your card son,what you talking about i thought here we go glass hammer left handed spanner and all that,but no he was the union bloke,anyway i had,nt a card,he said who told you to do it then well of coarse it was my boss,so he came back and said what the bleep you doing why have,nt you done that yet.
i said the bloke over there said to stop anyway he storms over and we nearly got chucked off our stand he was a fiery bloke from the south no what i mean john we had to get one of union guys to Finnish it off.
i did help out in the works when we had no deliveries the one day i was making door frames using a wolf electric drill it was raining and it used to leak in the old place in lawley st i dropped the drill in a puddle of water tried to pick it up quick incase i,d broke it an it was still running,did i get a belt or what, what a comedy or errors,oh to be young? cheers mate happy days regards Derek..
could well have delivered it i was employed as a drivers mate way back when,and we also in a lot of cases erect them all over the place.
had some great times messing about as you do we met some characters,and worked with some,we used to have a stand at bingly hall every year,and the one day i was painting the back boards and this geezer came up to me and said have you got your card son,what you talking about i thought here we go glass hammer left handed spanner and all that,but no he was the union bloke,anyway i had,nt a card,he said who told you to do it then well of coarse it was my boss,so he came back and said what the bleep you doing why have,nt you done that yet.
i said the bloke over there said to stop anyway he storms over and we nearly got chucked off our stand he was a fiery bloke from the south no what i mean john we had to get one of union guys to Finnish it off.
i did help out in the works when we had no deliveries the one day i was making door frames using a wolf electric drill it was raining and it used to leak in the old place in lawley st i dropped the drill in a puddle of water tried to pick it up quick incase i,d broke it an it was still running,did i get a belt or what, what a comedy or errors,oh to be young? cheers mate happy days regards Derek..
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Re: Windsor street
I think those shops could never have kept going without people having things on the slate and the pawnshop was always busy in those days. We lived from hand to mouth even in the early 1960's , take the little book in and get your goods put in " on the strap " and payed at the end of the week. Sounds terrible now.
I think those shops could never have kept going without people having things on the slate and the pawnshop was always busy in those days. We lived from hand to mouth even in the early 1960's , take the little book in and get your goods put in " on the strap " and payed at the end of the week. Sounds terrible now.
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