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We live in a village in South Yorkshire, three houses from the end of the copper cable and 800 yards from the green BT box. We receive between 4 and 5 mbps. As I understand it, if we converted to fibre at considerable increased monthly cost our line would be converted to fibre into the green box. But from the green box to home would remain on the existing 50 year old copper cable. The improvement in speed would therefore only be minimal. There have been rumours for several years that BT Open reach are replacing the copper cables next year. so hopefully we will get fibre at no additional cost! In the meantime we can happily continue to cope with 4 to 5 mbps. AC
My son and family live in the Yorkshire Pennines and have FTTC broadband with the copper telephone cable from the cabinet coming about a mile across the fields up hill and down dale and they get 23Mbps. They don't watch transmitted TV it all comes down the copper wire. The grandkids spend much time on 'facetime' etc with their friends.

When I joined the BHF way back in 2007 I was still on 'dial-up' internet and it took 5 minutes to upload a photo.
 
All of the above in France makes my FTTC 45mbps down and 8mbps up look positively 'snailpace'.

We live in a village in South Yorkshire, three houses from the end of the copper cable and 800 yards from the green BT box. We receive between 4 and 5 mbps.

In our area FTTH seems to be the norm. The common practice has been to follow the copper route into the house, often using the original copper as a pull wire for the fibre. Knowing how the contractors would work, (thin white fibre hot glued to skirting boards to the nearest mains socket for the fibre box regardless of where I wanted it), I prepared my installation beforehand. Plastic conduit from the house entry point up through the loft and down to where my box was going to be located, with a pull cord in it ready for the fibre. Not visible until it exited behind furniture for the box. Made it quicker for them and kept Julie, (and me) happy. I use ethernet from the box for the desktop, and didn't want to re route that.

When we first came here, the copper was in place, but no internet. Our ISP did a special introductory (throttled) rate of 2Mb at a good price, which we used for a while until I had torn nearly all my hair out, and we went from throttled to full speed DSL, which I think managed to hit 20 Mb at times.

45 Mb would be fine for heavy domestic use. There are a lot slower things on the end of the wires that we connect to. (Wraps arms protectively over fibre connection however).

Andrew.
 
My son and family live in the Yorkshire Pennines and have FTTC broadband with the copper telephone cable from the cabinet coming about a mile across the fields up hill and down dale and they get 23Mbps. They don't watch transmitted TV it all comes down the copper wire. The grandkids spend much time on 'facetime' etc with their friends.

When I joined the BHF way back in 2007 I was still on 'dial-up' internet and it took 5 minutes to upload a photo.
I remember those days. Either fortunately or unfortunately our devises did not consume or need so much push. Looking at programs back then their need was minimal compared to new programs today. Granted they are faster and do more but how much do we really need? When we moved a year ago the slowest our provider offered was 300!
I did a lot of real work on dial up, it might of been a bit slow but now it’s so fast I sit there to decide what’s next so the net gain is really not that great.
 
When we were upgraded from copper line to fibre, the copper lines were removed, and the 'box' here at home was replaced by a fibre driven one. There is a phone socket on the box that the original phone plugs into. Previously, the copper line terminated in a splitter, phone in one socket and internet box in the other.

Nothing changed with respect to the phone, same phone and the same number. The internet speed changed considerably to 1 Gb down and 600 Mb up. We also gained the option of a second distinctly different phone number that we could use for business purposes perhaps.

Changing to fibre made it so simple for the supplier, that that to encourage the take up of fibre, we have unlimited calls to French mobiles, and to fixed lines in France and many other countries. There is no data limit on the internet part either. Our mobiles will also connect for calling/receiving to the home wifi, as well as for normal data, so we are not dependent on the airwaves while at home, and it reduces the mobile mast congestion for those actually mobile.

One important point. The copper line supplied power to the phone from the exchange, and if you had a simple phone, no built in answer machine etc, then it would continue to work during power failures, powered by the exchange batteries, even though internet was lost. We kept such a phone for emergency use. That safety net goes away with fibre. Your box on the end is powered by you, and a mains failure loses all communication. Modern mobiles alleviate that to a great degree, but if you are in the sticks with no home mobile coverage, you have no fallback in a power cut.

One advantage in our circumstances is the the lack of electrical interference to the fibre lines, strung up on the original poles here. We were always hearing the tick tick tick of the many electric fences, picked up by the copper line 'aerials' on the way to our place and faithfully reproduced in our earpiece.

Andrew.
BT told me i will get a battery back up supply.just in case of power cut.it lasts for 1hr.. we will see hey.
 
BT are hoping to move everyone eventually to what they call Digital Voice. Some information here. I know someone who got 'changed over' and has had some initial problems
 
i did ask all that info at Bt, . and was told if there is a break in the fiber cable there is not much you can do untill it is repaired.....2025 is the end of copper LL.

i have a gen that powers my hovel/pc if the power goes off
 
My broadband supplier is the same as my mobile network. Their solution to a broadband outage that they are responsible for, as they were last week, is to drop 200Gb extra onto my mobile data allowance for the month. I can then switch to phone hotspot mode. Fine for me, but for those with poor mobile coverage ?? When the broadband light goes off, I get a text within half an hour telling me of the mobile addition.
Andrew.
 
My broadband supplier is the same as my mobile network. Their solution to a broadband outage that they are responsible for, as they were last week, is to drop 200Gb extra onto my mobile data allowance for the month. I can then switch to phone hotspot mode. Fine for me, but for those with poor mobile coverage ?? When the broadband light goes off, I get a text within half an hour telling me of the mobile addition.
Andrew.
That’s a great deal! Before we installed our broadband last year we used our phones as hot spots for our computer, a little slower than we are used to but worked fine and we were able to stream Masterpiece Theater!
who is you broadband provider?
 
who is you broadband provider?
We are with Orange. They used to be France Telecom. They provide the infrastructure, and the other three big boys tend to ride on their fibres. They also provide our mobile connection, and the whole thing is wrapped up in a single package. They are not the cheapest over here, but the service taken as a whole is pretty good. They have a cheaper level called SOSH, but it is a pruned down offering in terms of ‘extras’, such as response to problems.
Andrew.
 
We are with Orange. They used to be France Telecom. They provide the infrastructure, and the other three big boys tend to ride on their fibres. They also provide our mobile connection, and the whole thing is wrapped up in a single package. They are not the cheapest over here, but the service taken as a whole is pretty good. They have a cheaper level called SOSH, but it is a pruned down offering in terms of ‘extras’, such as response to problems.
Andrew.
Are they independent or did they just change their name?
 
Whats the port that looks like HDMI but isn t? and why have they changed hdmi for this is it better?

pete very confused
 
Whats the port that looks like HDMI but isn t? and why have they changed hdmi for this is it better?

pete very confused
Pete, HDMI is definitely the way to go. If your pc doesn`t have HDMI you may need a usb to HDMI cable. I think your pc will have to have usb3 to use this cable. Usb3 is identified by blue in the slot. Hope this makes sense !
 
If the Optiplex video out is DisplayPort and your monitor is HDMI then you will need a DisplayPort cable into an adapter to a HDMI cable
 
i will order one thanks OM and others for your help i wondered why i could not get the plugs in i try'd for ages thinking it was hdmi i must go to s/savers.
 
Yesterday I watched the England v Iran match on my tv and took the BBC option to watch in UHD ... it comes through the iPlayer. All looked good apart from needing a slight brightness increase. Decided to watch BBC UHD output today but a code number showed on the tv which I needed to enter on a computer before I could access the UHD pic on the tv. Big scramble finding my password but got there eventually and my broadband FTTC has no problem streaming the data.
 
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