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Brougham Street, Lozells

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DaveInston said:
Does anyone have information on number 1 Alexander Terrace that was destroyed in World War 2?
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hi dave...i have had a look on the BARRA site and according to that st marys training school at no 35 was hit resulting on one death and at no 36 just one person injured...so happily it looks like there were no injuries or deaths a no 1 alexander terrace...just to confirm things here is a map showing that no 1 alexander terrace has gone...map dated 1955

lyn
 
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Thanks Lyn,

This time it only took me 4 months to log on here again! Better late than never I guess.

I've been retired now over a year and do you know what? The old cliche that says, " when you retire you don't know how you found time to go to work" is actually correct.

As kids we used to refer to the site of number 1 Alexandra Terrace as simply "The Bomb Peck". I remember that Mr Hill, who lived at number 2, would come out and chase us off with his walking stick if he heard us playing there ! Happy days!

I wonder, has anything been heard about Freddy Round, Brian Bowler, Colin Beech et al? We were all very fond of messing around on the "Peck"
 
DaveInston said:
A couple more remnants which may be interesting for you.
The sassy young lass is my cousin enjoying an Ice lol outside Hurlstons Shop on the corner of Brougham street and Wills street. The other is a family picture taken near Albert Cottages about halfway down Brougham Street. Both were taken in the late 1950s.
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We moved into brougham st in about 1968. We lived at 5/6 Albert cottages would love to see a photo of the place
 
sorry for the delay. if you put brougham street in the search box you
will find some photos there.
regards stars
 
hi ya stars..this is the brougham street thread lol...unless you know of another one on the forum all photos are here ??

lyn
 
stars said:
sorry for the delay. if you put brougham street in the search box you
will find some photos there.
regards stars
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Thanks for the reply. I wonder if any remembers our family. I remember my mom used to chat to a lady that lived in the row of houses up the ally opposite Albert cottages. And a family that lived halfway down the street last name ward. We used to play on the old bomb peck by the school and remember that there used to be some sort of factory there we used to call it the glass house. We are quite a big family. Douglas, Terry Wendy, John, Harry, tony, me and Janet. My mother had red hair.
 
hello maria and welcome to the forum..as i said earlier all the photos to date of brougham st are posted on this thread...including a couple of colour ones taken when you would have lived there...sorry i dont recall your family as i lived in villa st from 58 to 72..there are threads on the forum for both villa st and nursery road if you are interested..

all the best

lyn
 
Thank you ray even though I was young I remember the street so well like it was yesterday It's possible that the beige dog on the photo was ours named bobby. When we moved we moved just two streets away to church st
 
hi marie...no we dont have a thread for church st but as i said in an earlier post there is one for nursery road which should include a photo taken from nursery road looking up church st.....your house in church st must still be there then..what number did you live at..






lyn
 
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Yes it's still there num 69. Our back garden led straight on to the bomb peck on villa street. There were still empty house on villa street ( bomb peck) when we first moved to church st. We had so much fun demoliting them. Using the wood to build bonfires or dens
 
my one regret maria is not to take a load of photos of villa st before i left it in 1972 but of course when we are young (i was 18 ish at the time) we have far more exciting things to be doing..must have passed your old house the other day as i was down the old end having a look around

lyn
 
Hi there
My aunty Winnie Phelps lived in church street
She moved from ford street oppersite the bus garage
Sadly she died in church street
My cousins was Barry and Bryan, ,sadly I believe Barry as died a couple of years ago
When he lived in Sutton Coldfield after living in Spain for awhile
I do think I have got a picture amongst my .of of church street
Best wishes Alan,,, Astonian,,,,
 
Astoness said:
my one regret maria is not to take a load of photos of villa st before i left it in 1972 but of course when we are young (i was 18 ish at the time) we have far more exciting things to be doing..must have passed your old house the other day as i was down the old end having a look around

lyn
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You would of moved from villa street before we moved to church st
Was there a factory of some sort on villa street? It would of back on to brougham st.
 
Astonian said:
Hi there
My aunty Winnie Phelps lived in church street
She moved from ford street oppersite the bus garage
Sadly she died in church street
My cousins was Barry and Bryan, ,sadly I believe Barry as died a couple of years ago
When he lived in Sutton Coldfield after living in Spain for awhile
I do think I have got a picture amongst my .of of church street
Best wishes Alan,,, Astonian,,,,
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What year would this be around Alan and do you know what number that they lived at?
 
I remember the shop on the corner of brougham st and Wills st. And my dad used to drink in the angel. And that a friends dad that also lived in Albert cottages used to go and get a jug of aile every Sunday afternoon. Also my oldest brother got his first home in the block of flats ( saddlers house) the one that you can see on the photo when he first got married
To his girlfriend who's family lived in burbury st.
Plus one year me and my sister went to a Christmas party at H samules. We must of only been around 5 or 6.
 
DaveInston said:
Hi Lyn,

I'm not sure about putting family names of the still living on a public forum without their permission. However, if you would like to pm me I'll welcome starting a discussion.

I can't say I remember the Moorhouse family. My cousin Shiela is still alive and well and living in Great Barr (Shiela is the Mom in the previous picture) I'll ask her when I visit Brum again soon.

My family occupied all but one of the houses in Alexandra Terrace halfway down Brougham Street. Although it seems that Alexandra Terrace is long forgotten. Thinking back there never was a sign saying "Alexandra Terrace" so, even if you lived nearby at the time, you may never have known that it was called that. You may recall though that it was up steps about halfway down the street. Originally the terrace was six houses, we lived at number 5. Number one was destroyed in WW2 and the site remained derelict and was known as the "bomb peck".

Directly adjacent to the terrace was a very big house known as "the Bunns house" that had a pear orchard in the garden that was a rich scrumping ground for us kids (do kids still do scrumping I wonder?).

The Bunns house was very notable because of its size, I guess about 10 bedrooms. The end of the garden onto the street was marked by an impressive line of mature sycamore trees. In October there was always masses of leaves fallen in the street that I used to love to trapse through and I loved playing with the "whirly bird" sycamore seeds which we found amongst the leaves.

The Bunns House was derelict when we were kids and, of course, we were forbiden to enter. All the kids were convinced it was haunted and of course we didn't pay much heed to the warnings to keep out. I always remember that I found a WW2 gas mask and an old Nazi helmet in there which I proudly wore in the street much to the consternation of the grown ups !!! As you can imagine, I was a right lttle b*gger !!!

In about 1966 the Bunns House was converted into a "halfway House" by the city council and marked a further sharp declne in the area. The decline process began of course with the massive urban redevelopment plan of the early 60s. When I left Harry Lucas in 68, the school and the Lucas Factory where pretty much the only buildings remaining standing in a wilderness of urban destruction!

Directly across the street from Alexandra Terrace was Marlborough Terrace. Glenda lived at number one and my mate Brian lived at number 4 (I think). I found Glenda on Friends Reunited a couple of years back.

I left the street in 1968 directly on leaving Harry Lucas and migrated with my Mom and Dad to Weston-super-Mare, I'm still here now with family and Grandchildren (Mom and dad died about 10 years back). It was traumatic as a kid to leave Brum, but I realise now that Mom and Dad got their timing exactly right !

I remember a few more names, so, if you want to drop me a line....
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I remember my mom used to chat to a lady in Alexander terrace. This would of been in the late 60s I also have a memory of them having a disagreement about our dog having bitten one of their kids ( a girl I think) I also remember being friends with a girl who lived with her grandparents ( i think) and she had a big rocking horse ( well to me it was big) I'm not sure if they lived up Alexander terrace or in a house next to the dunn
 
hi marie i think the factory in villa st that you mentioned could have been southalls...it was a very large building and would have backed onto brougham st...the shop on the corner of wills and brougham st was i think called hurlstones...we used to go to christmas parties at the lucas factory...happy days..oh my dad used to drink in the angel and played dominos and darts for them so a good chance that he knew your dad:)

lyn
 
There was many a time my older brother had to go and fetch my dad from the angel. It was still his local even when we moved to church st. I remember a few people but not sure of their names
As I was only young. Those days were happy days
 
We left brougham st around 1972/3 we used to climb over the wall at the back of the Bunns house and go scrumping at the back of the nuns house
I was always terrified of getting court. Gosh we used to play all day on the bomb peck next to the school. My brother's got caught breaking in to the factory at the back of our house. I remember that they stole loads of sweets and used to give them away to the other kids on the street
 
hello marie....your childhood memories of living in brougham st are very much the same as mine living in neighbouring villa st..playing on the old bomb pecks and scrumping etc...at the end of our very long garden was a high wall that we used to climb up and behind there was a place where things were stored..well this building had an easy way in and my brother and his mates used to get in and help themselves:rolleyes:...at one time everyone in the street had wooden antelope ornaments for our moms and another time we all had a decent pair of black pumps lol...

lyn
 
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My sister remembers some kids that lived up Alexander terrace. Tommy, Arthur, and a kid named joey. She can't remember there last name. But she said that she thinks that they lived at number 9.
 
I thought that as an item as old as this circa 1872 to 1906 it may also be of historic interest.
 
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