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Pubs Of The Past

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Astoness said:
the cross keys pub erdington is now boarded up and up for sale

lyn
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No change today, still boarded up. I was looking at a map from 1820 the other day (to do with the building of the parish church) and this pub was already there then. Do hope they manage to save it. Lyn, did you notice if the painters next door had new occupants. I can't remember. I was wondering if something was going to happen to this corner in connection with the development over the road from there.
 
Astonian said:
hi jimbow
you are correct on the white swan pub being on the corner of victoria road and white head road
and you could be qiite right about the travellers rest
but i do know that the white swann is correct as l lived actoss the road from it and used it
i lived at 47 victoria road and at the same time there was a doctors house surgery living direcrtly on whitehead road
and he has bars on is house windows and doors and he used to own and drive around in a huge pink american cadilac
always parked out side , and he was the very first person or should i say the very first doctor
to charge his patience for the visit to see him but he then lost alot of his patiencs
they refused to pay him and they went elsewhere further down to the other lot of doctors surgery on park road
by buckinghams chemist and the old victoria picture house on victoria road
the old swann was revamped and moderned ised and extentented about ninty sixties
they made it flush and cosy and good west indian music bands performed there
best wishes Astonian,,,
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Hello All. The White Swan was on the corner of Victoria Road/Whitehead Road. It is now a Medical Centre. I remember back in the 60's they used to store the bottles outside in the yard. The Travellers rest was on Whitehead Road/Bartons Bank although I don't remember much about that one. Mike
 
Radiorails said:
What happened Phil? I guess you were aiming for a life of free beer?
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I remember the Queens Head in Aberdeen Street but I can't remember the Bellefield. Alzheimers kicking in I guess. Although I came from Aston before moving to Kingstanding in 69, I had several friends from school who lived in the Winson Green area. Mike
 
ParkerBrum said:
The Winson Green picture is of the Cottage of Content in Norman Street, off Winson Green Road. The pub on the corner of Lodge Road and Don Street was the "Winson Green Tavern".
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In the 60's and 70's the Winson Green Tavern was affectionally known locally as "The Don". Mike
 
Hello All

Does anyone have any photos or information on the Bricklayers Arms that used to be on the corner of Clifton Road and Potters Hill. In the early 60's the landlord was Jack McCarron who had moved from our back to backs in Clifton Road and took over the Bricklayers for a few years. My dad used to help him out behind the Bar. I'm not sure when the Bricklayers closed down but, I guess, it would have been demolished in 1970/1971. In about 1966, they then moved to what was the Swanpool Tavern opposite Aston Station. I think this is now called the Swan & Mitre. Any photos or information appreciated. Thanks Mike
 
Bob Davis said:
Which is why the Americans/Canadians suggest Pype Hayes as a safe place to visit. Can anyone map the pubs in the Pype Hayes area, I think I was right with my references in the other post to The Norton, Bagot Arms and I said the Pype Hayes, but I think I was wrong with that name. They started with The Yenton, The Digby, then the one on the canal but the memories are only of the beer and the fug and the noise, we did not care what the name was, just that they were open.
Bob
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Hello Bob. The pub on the canal was the Tyburn House further along the Kingsbury Road you had the New Inn the name change many years ago to the The Boat.
 
MikeC, do a search. There quite a few threads with references to this particular Bricklayers Arms. One of them is from someone who says they were born there.
 
I don't remember this pub on the corner of Carrs Lane and Moor Street. I suppose it was swept away in the building of the Ringway
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I don't remember the pub Jim but I seem to remember one on maps called 'The Aquarium' which was around here. However, you can see that this wasn't the name of the pub on your photo. Perhaps they renamed it?
 
Lady P

The Aquarium was in fact on the corner of Carrs Lane and Moor Street, I'm afraid I don't know if it was renamed as The Corner or in fact rebuilt, but I would imagine that it was renamed. This is a drawing of the interior of the Aquarium.

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Lady Penelope said:
I don't remember the pub Jim but I seem to remember one on maps called 'The Aquarium' which was around here. However, you can see that this wasn't the name of the pub on your photo. Perhaps they renamed it?
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I remember the "Firebird" coffee bar that was opposite in Carrs Lane. But that is well off theme.
 
Jim,

In the latter half of the 1950s I spent a large chunk of my free time in said coffee bar and also did several gigs there, but I just can't remember that pub on the corner, whatever its name was. Selective long distance memory I guess.

Maurice
 
The Pub on the corner is on the 1952 map but has gone by 1960 - 69 map - can't tell on 1959 map as scale is not sufficient to see. In the 1940 Kelly's it is called "The Corner" PH.
 
Lady Penelope said:
I don't remember the pub Jim but I seem to remember one on maps called 'The Aquarium' which was around here. However, you can see that this wasn't the name of the pub on your photo. Perhaps they renamed it?
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You must be older than I thought Pen. :p I found it on a 1889 map as the Aquarium. It is the same site as The Corner.
 
Lady Penelope said:
No change today, still boarded up. I was looking at a map from 1820 the other day (to do with the building of the parish church) and this pub was already there then. Do hope they manage to save it. Lyn, did you notice if the painters next door had new occupants. I can't remember. I was wondering if something was going to happen to this corner in connection with the development over the road from there.
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Stitcher said:
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This is the corner of Granville Street and Broad Street and the pub is called 'The Granville'. It was built in 1923, more recently the pub was re-named as 'The Westward Ho!' but in later years it reverted back to The Granville.View attachment 62573



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This is another shot of The Granville in 1964.
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I've just come across this picture , about this time The Granville was managed by a gent commonly known as Wally . He unfortunately sometime in the near future got stung by the weights and measures people for short measures
Stitcher said:
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This is the corner of Granville Street and Broad Street and the pub is called 'The Granville'. It was built in 1923, more recently the pub was re-named as 'The Westward Ho!' but in later years it reverted back to The Granville.View attachment 62573



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This is another shot of The Granville in 1964.
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The Bowling Green on Holloway Head 1964.
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and The Glassmakers Arms 1964 on the corner of Holliday St. and Granville St. It is believed the name was derived from the glass making industry that was prevalant in earlier times.

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Known locally as The Glassblowers , I lived just up the road from it
 
Stitcher said:
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The Bowling Green on Holloway Head 1964.
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and The Glassmakers Arms 1964 on the corner of Holliday St. and Granville St. It is believed the name was derived from the glass making industry that was prevalant in earlier times.

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The manager of The Bowling Green due to family problems left here and took over The Gough Arms which was across the road in Upper Gough st His name was Ron Kenyon
 
Hello,

Would anyone, by any chance, have any photos of The Woodsman Inn that used to be on Bradford Street until it closed in 1909? The last known licensees were ancestors of my husband (the Freemans) however, I can't seem to find out what happened to the pub or, indeed, where it was on Bradford street. If anyone has any information, I'd be eternally grateful.

Thank you in advance

P.S. I have spent 71 pages getting to know you all and (as a landlady of a rural pub that was closed for 3.5 years) I thank you all for all the work you've done on this page keeping the memories of these pubs alive.
 
SolC said:
Hello,

Would anyone, by any chance, have any photos of The Woodsman Inn that used to be on Bradford Street until it closed in 1909? The last known licensees were ancestors of my husband (the Freemans) however, I can't seem to find out what happened to the pub or, indeed, where it was on Bradford street. If anyone has any information, I'd be eternally grateful.

Thank you in advance

P.S. I have spent 71 pages getting to know you all and (as a landlady of a rural pub that was closed for 3.5 years) I thank you all for all the work you've done on this page keeping the memories of these pubs alive.
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Hi,

There's some information (no pictures unfortunately) in this post...

https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/woodman-inn-deritend.19589/
 
Down Memory Lane said:
Hi,

There's some information (no pictures unfortunately) in this post...

https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/woodman-inn-deritend.19589/
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Hi Down Memory Lane

Thank you so much for this. I have come across this before and I've emailed the owner of this website as for some reason, he hasn't listed the Freemans as the last landlords. (I have been told that when William Freeman (of Moseley) died in 1908, the pub company (Rushton's according to the above website) wouldn't allow his wife Lillie to take it on by herself, which is a shame as Lillie actually worked as barmaid when the Heath's had it according to the 1901 Census). I wondered if this contributed somewhat to the pubs closure in 1909?:confused:

Hopefully someone somewhere has a photo lying around somewhere...

Many thanks again :)
 
SolC said:
Hi Down Memory Lane

Thank you so much for this. I have come across this before and I've emailed the owner of this website as for some reason, he hasn't listed the Freemans as the last landlords. (I have been told that when William Freeman (of Moseley) died in 1908, the pub company (Rushton's according to the above website) wouldn't allow his wife Lillie to take it on by herself, which is a shame as Lillie actually worked as barmaid when the Heath's had it according to the 1901 Census). I wondered if this contributed somewhat to the pubs closure in 1909?:confused:

Hopefully someone somewhere has a photo lying around somewhere...

Many thanks again :)
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SolC Welcome I can well understand the reasoning about Lillie not being able to take the pub over, years ago women could not take on HP . I know that only too well from experience , my mother tried to enter into a HP agreement with Civic Radio on Easy Row for my first record player in the 60's she had a terrible job, namely because my parents were separated . Also a very close friend of some years ago ran a pub on Holloway Head due to marital strife he had to leave that pub , he applied for another public house not far away , was refused because of no female relative, he had to get his mother involved with a new licence and got the pub . It became a very successful enterprise , so I presume they were partners in a roundabout way
 
SolC

According to Kelly's trade directory the last licensee for the Beer Retailer (I don't think it was ever a fully licenced pub) was Lilly Freeman in 1909 (listed in 1910). It was at 91 Bradford Street and if they haven't changed the numbering that would have put it between Alcester Street and Lombard Street. After closing as a beer house it became a Fruiterer (whatever that was) run by a Mr William Lodge. In fact if I have the right location I think in the mid 60's it became a hairdressers shop owner by a mate of mine.
 
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