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Barton's Arms High Street Aston

gingerjon

gingerjon

GONE BUT NOT FORGOTTEN R.I.P.
help needed to find out as much as we can about the Barton Arms the history of the place the stars who visited the Barton's pictures if any we know it was built in 1901 it is being refurbished at the present moment and hopes to open by December and they need our help to find out as much as we can
 
Bartons Arms

Hi John,

I have just found a leaflet printed after the last refit of the pub in I think the 1980's. To add what you have out on the main site it says -

The Barton's Arms is one of the finest examples of a Victoria Pub to be found anywhere in the country. Built in1901, the pub was designed by local architects James and Lister Lea, who are thought to have found the
inspiration for the style of the building from the nearby Aston Hall. What is certain is they created an imposing outline which stands out distinctively
to this day.

With regard to finding out more about its history I wonder if Mitchells & Butlers or Bass who took them over has any archive material and photos
they would loan the site.
 
Don't know whether this post should be here or in News & Events, but would like to congratulate Manager, Colin Smith and his team on winning
Birmingham's Campaign for Real Ale 2004 Pub of the Year award.
 
Congrats to The Barton Arms

Well Done!
Is that the 'CAMERA' award, do you know Sylvia?
I have been known to frequent :oops: 'The Black Eagle' in Hockley,which has won the award on a few occasions.
Nowt better than a real brew, with a thick frothy head, some crusty bread, cheese and home made pickles.
 
Bartons Arms

Yes Sue, it is CAMRA, and I too visit the Black Eagle occasionally, great pub and staff, pity about the location, wouldn't go there in the evenings.
 
I s'pose this is a digression from the topic but I went to a wedding reception at the Black Eagle and it was the best I've ever been to:

Good food, booze, service; everything was perfect. Luckily, it was in the summer so we sat in the garden and we could've been in a little country pub, apart from the staff were more sociable than you get in the country. :wink:
 
The bartons for beer?

I agree Paul - we had my sons 21st there earlier this year, and it was the best, for all the reasons you state. I tried to book it for my hubbys 50th, but it was fully booked :cry:

I have never been to The Bartons Arms, but if the beer tastes as good as The Black Eagle, and theres a coach trip - put me name down please.

PS - I was taken (accompanied) into The Flighted Horse recently - well! That WAS an experience :shock:
 
In the latish 1950s we used to drop in the Bartons Arms to warm up before crosing over to the Aston Hip. I think it was Thursdays they had a variety show compered by Terry "Toby Jug" Cantor, with some amusing stand-up comedians, and under-dressed dancing girls, not that they seemed to be particularly good dancers either. We might have got another in the Barton's after the show, but as LAST ORDERS was at 9.50 pm and you had to be out at 10, it was a bit unlikely.
The Barton's was always lively and apparently well run. I don't recall any trouble, and it was always a superb building.
I went in about five years ago when valiant efforts were being made to keep it going, but I think it was closed for a bit after then. It is really good to see that it is open again, and somebody is trying so hard to build up trade. I do hope they are successful, but it is very hard to do well in catering - there are so many problems like regulations, the cost and difficulty of getting good supplies, competition with rivals and above all the customers. Thank Heavens I turned down an opportunity to get into the pub trade!
Peter
 
In the 50's we used to go to The Barton's Arms to a jazz club, which was always on Saturday night. It was held in an upstairs room, and the bands were all small local Bimingham groups. We used to jive as well, so it must have been a bit of a racket for anybody downstairs in for a quiet pint. Or maybe they were as noisy as us. :D
 
You know I was talking about "ploughmans lunch " the other day it must be donkeys years since I have seen and eaten a really decent ploughmans.

big cchunk of crusty berad a nob of butter half a pound of cheese and sweet pickle ..mmmmmmmmmmmm
 
My dad wouldn't agree with you Peter, his eight pints had to be Ansells.

Twice during my childhood he was persuaded to leave the Aston, his local, to go on holiday and he spent his time away trying to find beer he considered drinkable.
 
It wasn't a matter of quality, Diana, it was etiquette. You didn't support the opposition - it was like scoring an 'own goal' in football, and you would be a marked man (sorry about the sexism there).
In them days, Ansells had an excellent reputation for its beer and for most of its pubs. I remember the last steam lorries (drays) brought out of storage during WW2, when petrol was short. The advertising slogan was "Ansells- the Better Beer".
Since then both the big breweries have disappeared, though the title 'M&B' has been raised from the dead for the rump estate of managed pubs that Bass/Charrington/Worthington/M&B (to name a few) ran once upon a time, and owing to politicians' intereference, they don't brew any more.
If anything, I think Ansells' history is even sadder. They were taken over by Allied breweries, who owned a large number of breweries. They sold off the Aston Cross brewery to make room for the Aston Expressway, possibly not their fault, although they seemed quite happy to lower standards as their other breweries replaced the Aston. In particular I don't forgive them for setting up a distribution depot in Holford Drive, Perry Barr and calling it the head office of Ansells Brewery.
 
D'you know, Peter, I've heard some of these young 'uns going out on the beer when, in fact, they've been drinking some terrible imported lager, and from the bottle at that! :roll: What kind of a pastime can that be? :shock:

One cheeky transatlantic pretended even advertises it's lager as being King of Beers! It's a sad old world, isn't it?
 
I'm looking for any information on The Bartons Arms in Aston prior to it's rebuild in the early 1900's.

Any information on owners or landlords or even staff would be appreciated as I can't find anything online about it.

Thanks
Vikki
 
Vikki

If you put Bartons Arms in the search box at the top of the page that will help you.:)
 
Thanks Alf, I'd already done that & came up with nothing before 1900.
 
The Bartons Arms

Vikki have you looked on the main site, John Houghton put a long article there some time ago, I can't recall all the details but it may help you.
 
Vikki, if you have any surnames you think may have owned the pub, you might be lucky if you request a search in the Kelly's section for the relevant dates.:)
 
sylviasayers said:
Vikki have you looked on the main site, John Houghton put a long article there some time ago, I can't recall all the details but it may help you.
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Hiya, yes I think I have seen that article. I have searched this site for weeks before posting & searched online where I can think.

Thanks though.
Vikki
 
Oisin said:
Vikki,

It would seem there are no records pre-dating its rebuild in 1900/1? Have a look here: https://tinyurl.com/ypfn86https://tinyurl.com/ypfn86
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hiya
I've read that page many a times as it happens lol, which is how I knew F S Poole sold the property in 1899.

F S Poole is not a name I am searching for.

I am probably on a wild goose chase on this, but the family story goes, that my great grandmother was done out of her inheritance by her brothers (now found she had no brothers but she did have uncles). Her mother died when she was a few years old and it looks as though she was brought up by her grandmother.

The other story goes that there was family money in The Barton Arms.

So imagine my surprise when I find out that the grandmother she lived with (in 1881) was called Sarah Barton & her uncles were Bartons.

It left me wondering if the 2 were connected.

But I can't seem to find any history on why it was called the Bartons Arms.

Like I say a wild goose chase, but I really want to find out I am wrong so I can stop looking lol.
 
Di.Poppitt said:
Vikki, if you have any surnames you think may have owned the pub, you might be lucky if you request a search in the Kelly's section for the relevant dates.:)
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I looked on there last night, but didn't spot anything relevant for the Bartons Arms. I didn't spot how to search with a surname though, will be looking again!
 
Vikki: Good luck with your search on the Bartons. My grandmother on my Mother's side was Laura Barton from the Witton area and there was always talk in the family about a connection with The Barton's Arms. My grandmother was born in, I think, the late l800's. I don't know anymore sadly since my Mother ditched all her Mother's relatives and I never met any of them.
 
jennyann said:
Vikki: Good luck with your search on the Bartons. My grandmother on my Mother's side was Laura Barton from the Witton area and there was always talk in the family about a connection with The Barton's Arms. My grandmother was born in, I think, the late l800's. I don't know anymore sadly since my Mother ditched all her Mother's relatives and I never met any of them.
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hi Jenny,
I've not yet come across a Laura Barton, but research has been hard on that line. Do you know your grandfathers name at all?
I would like to talk more about this if your interested?
Please IM me & I will send u my email.
Vikki
 
Barton's Arms

prior to 1900 the Barton's Arms was run by a Thomas Fulford research so far from 1868 to 1880 there were several Barton family's around at this time but none with connections to the Barton's Arms just up from Potters Lane was a field called Barton's field or wood just by Birch wood Rod is trying to confirm more about this area
prior to 1868 there was a Fulford family as brewsters in Aston and Birmingham reference Kelly's
 
I always find it facinating with adresses. I have a death certificate for my gt grandfather's sister Ann Wilks who died in 1880 she lived at back of 275 Farm Street. This would be the back house of Thomas Fulford. The other Jennings's lived at no's 229,236,231. I believe my great grandfather owned one of these houses.
 
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