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Barton's Arms High Street Aston

John Houghton said:
prior to 1900 the Barton's Arms was run by a Thomas Fulford research so far from 1868 to 1880 there were several Barton family's around at this time but none with connections to the Barton's Arms just up from Potters Lane was a field called Barton's field or wood just by Birch wood Rod is trying to confirm more about this area
prior to 1868 there was a Fulford family as brewsters in Aston and Birmingham reference Kelly's
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excellant! I can rule out any connections to the Bartons Arms!

Thank you!
 
Thanks to everyone who has given me information, even if it still leaves the question as to where does the story come from lol
 
I wouldnt yet rule it out, a connection I mean. Genealogy has some very strange twists and turns.
 
I know my great grandfather, Charles George Smith, was licensee at the Barton's Arms in the early 1900's but not when. Does any one have a list of licensee's names? He also ran the roller skating rink at the Tower Ballroom for a few years.
 
Through the early 1900's Arthur Edge was publican? then in 1905 Seymour John Melhuish, and 1908 a guy called Henry Gomm. Maybe someone else has a Kellys showing your Grt Grandfather....
 
Looking again at Kellys I notice Arthur Edge is listed in more than one pub, the Acorn on Wheeler Street. Maybe he used your Grt Grandfather to manage the Bartons? this is a theory and needs more investigation. At least though its not so clear cut as I first thought Clarkey. Hope you can throw more light on it now. There is a archive I beleive kept at Burton on Trent I think for Mitchells and Butlers, this might be a way forward. Maybe getting in touch with one of the guys who have written about Birmingham pubs could be a another source of info?
 
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from 1899 to 1950 no trace of a Charles Gordon Smith at the Barton Arms
have you any dates of birth or death for this person this would help in trying to pin point the date
 
Family stories tell of my great grandfather, a wealthy jeweller in the area, riding his horse to the pub on a Friday night, getting completely legless, and then falling off again on the way home. Unable to remount the horse in such a condition he'd ask a passing policeman for help and then give him a tip - sometimes a whole sovereign, which he'd then demand back the next day because it was a great deal more than was appropriate for the services provided! This became such a regular event, and as he was so well known locally, and so wealthy, they eventually renamed the pub after him. His name was Charles P Barton, born 1829, and he lived at Bearly Street West in the St Georges district.
 
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There was a Charles Barton at 71 (back of) Brearley Street West in the 1876 and 1880 directories . Previously to that (1873) he was in Ford St (no number given). I gather he was an albert chain maker. i had to look that up, but then realised my grandfather had one , the guard chain that fitted to a pocket watch.
Mike
 
hi tyger.. what an interesting story... you have put your gg grandfather lived in bearly st west but i think you must mean brearley st west... if that is correct i too had ancestors living there so if you type in brearley st in the search box at the top of the page i have posted some pictures that you may find of interest.

regards

astonesss.:)
 
update regarding The Barton Arms prior to 1900

Aston new town. 1840
Arnold Mr. William
Baker Mr. James
Bartlam Chas. grocer and brush maker
Barton Arms, William Aston
Batkin Mr
Britain J. G. inspector of fire arms
Cameron James, excise officer
Cooper Thomas, maltster
Duke Mr. William
Edwards Wm. steel converter, improved
music steel, steel & iron
wire manufacturer. (Aston furnace mills)
Fisher J, Britannia metal ware manufacturer
Gee Mr. Thomas, adjuster of small
scale beams
Greener Wm. gun manufacturer
Hall William, carpenter
Hall William, shopkeeper
Henshaw Mr
Hardin Mr
Holder & Rlchard, pearl button manufacturer-
(Potter's meadow)
Lees Mrs
Lee Mr. Thomas
Lees Mr. John
Little Thomas, boot & shoe maker
Low Mr
Lockitt John modeIIer
Manton Mr William
Roden William, rnaltster
Siviter John jeweller
Snape Samuel, accountant
Sherwood Mr
Treadwell G R rail road contractor
Tayler John, modeller
Whitehead Josh. cabinet maker
Whitehead Thomas, cabinet maker
Wrlght Mr. Charles
 
Vikki said:
I looked on there last night, but didn't spot anything relevant for the Bartons Arms. I didn't spot how to search with a surname though, will be looking again!
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Hi vicky, I saw you,r comments on the barton arms, I too have been trying to find info on the barton arms around 1886, I think my grt grandfather was a landlord there around that time, he's name was albion hart, oh and we used to live in dulwich road[small world eh]
 
Going back a very long time my grandad used to entertain in the Bartons Arms under the name Will Bent, he was a comedian. I wonder does anyone remember this.

I also remember that when my grandparents were living in Newtown there were two other pubs, The Griffin and the Paddocks.
 
well it would be from 1920's onwards until around the early 1970's by which time he was blind and deaf but still funny, real name Charles Bennett - my gran and her sisters used to sing there too, the Lewis girls.
 
its a pity this pic is so dark on the left hand side but it was taken in 1902...love this one..:)
 

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Great pic, I like the decorative wrought iron work on the lamps and tram cable support poles.
Phil...:)
 
Fabulous picture Lyn :) The surroundings are so different now I don't think I would have recognised it. I definitely prefer the old view! Thanks for posting it.
 
Yes agree pollypops, great photo Lyn. Seeing the streets leading off from the pub makes me realise how much this was once very much part of the community. I only remember it in the 1970's, after much demolition of the surrounding area. Sadly by then it seemed very isolated. But I remember it was still a fantastic treat inside with much of the history still there to see. Lots of tiling and mahogany if memory serves and with the original bar with moveable boards to protect the identity of the drinker. Or did I imagine that after a few too many?? :rolleyes:
 
i love this pic too.and do have vague memories of being taken shopping along the high st up until i was about 5 and then we moved from paddington st to villa st and mom used the lozells road..wheeler st and the flat more for shopping.. viv we have had more than one meet up at the bartons so if you go to any of the meet up threads there are some interior pics of the bartons...shame that the sense of community spirit has now faded...

lyn
 
I've had a go at it, Lyn, but there is not a lot of improvement. There doesn't appear too much additional definition in the image to be revealed.

(I assume it is from a postcard; so there will be a limit as to how much detail is available. But is there any more in the original?)

Chris
 
Lyn

I cant do anything about the definition but I have lightened it up a little.

Phil

Edit. Reposting image -made slightly lighter and more defined. May vary from that previously posted here.

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ChrisM said:
I've had a go at it, Lyn, but there is not a lot of improvement. There doesn't appear too much additional definition in the image to be revealed.

(I assume it is from a postcard; so there will be a limit as to how much detail is available. But is there any more in the original?)

Chris
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thanks for having a go phil and chris..no there is no more in the original im afraid..i was given a few old calenders so im cutting out the pub and street pics and scanning them...the more i look the more i find it hard to believe it looked like that....
 
thanks ell and topsy..we still have a telphone box in the same spot although back in the day there used to to two of them...missing in the horses trough that i remember so well...

lyn
 
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The interior of The Bartons Arms in thw 1970s
 
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It was first opened in 1901 and is seen here in 1981 after being restored to it's former magnicent condition.
 
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