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Windows 10

oldMohawk, Yes I usually do hold the Power button down, this time switched off at main. I regularly back up my files, particularly my pics (1,800 of them, over 300 are my paintings the only visual record I have) but last time I had PC Pal engineer on a CD/DVD player fault he fitted (at a cost) some soft ware in another drawer which he said is continually backing up all my files so if my PC crashes all the files will be saved on this DVD. Eric
 
Microsoft seem to have finally sorted out their Edge browser and it now works satisfactorily on both my PC and iPad. It looks nice in 'dark' mode and syncs perfectly with PCs ... add a favourite in one device and it appears in the other.
Dark Edge on iPad.
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A slight security event ...
A relative asked me to put some photos and video clips on a DVD with full menu buttons to play in their DVD recorder. I agreed forgetting that I had not even burnt any DVDs for 8 or 9 years. To cut a long story short I needed an app which joined video clips and there are many on the web but they often come with unwanted baggage. I set a Win10 restore point and installed the app I needed and could see signs that it had baggage.

It worked perfectly but then annoying random pop-ups appeared which Windows Defender had let in considering them no threat. I already had Malwarebytes installed but it had gone past the 15 day trial so had to run a manual scan. I watched as it homed in on 17 threats, removed them, and invited me to restart my computer.
Now all is quiet on my Win 10 front ...:relieved:
 
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i wanted to play dvds.but there was no player in my 10.so i bought a prog.powerdvd17. it far better than win player
i do not have a dvd burner now ,my nero dont work.any idear which will.
 
mw0njm. said:
i wanted to play dvds.but there was no player in my 10.so i bought a prog.powerdvd17. it far better than win player
i do not have a dvd burner now ,my nero dont work.any idear which will.
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I would have thought your Powerdvd17 would easily burn dvds and it should produce a test burn before you actually try it on a disk.

These days I tend to use memory cards and flash drives and had not used dvds for years. There are plenty of dvd burning apps on the web but watch out for malware ... see post#216.

With my recent dvd authoring and burning, I used an 'open source' app named DVDstyler and a pic below shows it ready to burn a DVD. You can make it show a trial without actually burning to see if it will be any good. It was originally designed for Linux so needs some practice to make it work but it is good.
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. i think it is a dvd player only.i will look later. as you i download and save most on flash drives.. i like to put music on disks.
for my car. i did download some software.called paint. shop. ho dear. it was that full of malware i had to reload win.
norton phoned me and said i have 3 isp addresses. thanks for reply
 
Pete,

The current free edition of BurnAware works quite well. Like OldMohawk, I rarely have occasion to burn DVDs or CDs these days, but I have used BurnAware free on many occasions in the past without problems.

Maurice
 
When Win 10 first appeared in 2015 the Edge browser was a disaster but it is now running well. It is the first browser which appears amongst all the Microsoft stuff when you first have Win 10 but most people use it once to download another browser.

I have Edge in my W10 laptop and desktop and it now looks so much like Chrome I sometimes forget which browser I am running. It also runs well in an iPad as does Chrome.

There is a saying that 'the best browser is the one you like using' ….:)
 
Morturn said:
I forgot to add that Microsoft are going to pull the plug on Edge in the near future
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I doubt it, they could not ship Windows without a browser, if they did how would you go to the internet to download another browser?

However it does look like Edge will undertake a major redesign, the internal HTML engine will be changed to the Chromium one (also used in Google Chrome).

This will happen over the next year.
 
Morturn said:
I forgot to add that Microsoft are going to pull the plug on Edge in the near future
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As far as I know Microsoft are not ditching Edge. All they are going to do is change from their current browser engine to the Chromium open source rendering which is what Chrome uses.
 
We might all be running different versions of Windows 10
Some company has worked out PC usage of the different versions.

0.3% were running the original Windows 10 Version 1507 issued 29 July 2015
0.5% were running the Update Version 1511 issued 10 November 2015
1.4% were running the Update Version 1607 issued 2 Aug 2016
1.8% were running the Update Version 1703 issued 5 April 2017
5.7% were running the Update Version 1709 issued 17 October 2017
83.6% were running Update Version 1803 issued 30 April 2018
6.6% were running Update Version 1809 issued 3 October 2018 ... the version I'm using.

and Update Version 1903 will be issued maybe Spring this year.
 
wow nearly as good as my win 3.1 version:laughing:
2019-01 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64-based Systems (KB4480976)
is on my machine.
 
I've not had any problem burning dvds with Win 10, I also use 'Lightscribe' to label them but I'm told Lightscribe disks are becoming a bit difficult to find although I bought some last week without a problem.
I let Windows update as and when it pops up, always works for me.
 
oldMohawk said:
I would have thought your Powerdvd17 would easily burn dvds and it should produce a test burn before you actually try it on a disk.

These days I tend to use memory cards and flash drives and had not used dvds for years. There are plenty of dvd burning apps on the web but watch out for malware ... see post#216.

With my recent dvd authoring and burning, I used an 'open source' app named DVDstyler and a pic below shows it ready to burn a DVD. You can make it show a trial without actually burning to see if it will be any good. It was originally designed for Linux so needs some practice to make it work but it is good.
View attachment 131265
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loaded and working now. thanks for that.
 
My memories of Windows ... it makes a change from searching the Inner Circle bus route ...:grinning:
oldMohawk said:
Windows is 30 years old this week ... it's got a history ... a nostalgic look back …
Love it or hate it most of us have used it. I only know one person who never has.

MS DOS 6.0
In the mid 80s I was using this. No colour, cryptic command lines, we felt rather clever.
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Windows 1 (1985)
I was sure it would never ever catch on, it wasn't real computing, I stayed with DOS.
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Windows 2 (1987)
I never noticed this version, I was too busy typing cryptic DOS commands, and batch files.
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Windows 3 (1990)
Hmmm...it was starting to look good with overlapping windows and a fully usable mouse. I started to take notice
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Windows 3.1 (1992)
This version won me over we could use a mouse, see pics, and play Solitaire in colour. I stopped using DOS.
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Windows 95 (1995)
I could not afford a new home PC at the time so never used it.
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Windows 98 (1998)
My first home computer had this and I loved it. Flight sims, scanning photos, music, and I found Google.
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Windows ME ..(2000)
This 'Millennium Edition' passed me by, did anyone use it ? I suppose if you bought a new computer you had to.
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Windows 2000
Our company started a new IT dept who tried in vain to control our works computers.
Mainly for business and serious computing but we could still play with it when the boss wasn't looking.
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Windows XP (2001)
In 2004 I bought a new desk computer, it had XP which took time for me to like after Win98. It could upload pics from a camera.
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Windows Vista.(2007)
I never tried this because I was now very happy running XP mostly trouble free.
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Windows 7 (2009)
While grocery shopping in Tesco I bought a Windows 7 disk on impulse and installed Win 7 alongside XP.
I still use Win 7 in my desktop. I also bought my first laptop which came with Win 7.
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Windows 8 (2012)
Gave this a wide berth, I was happy with Win 7, but I did break ranks and bought a shiny Apple iPad.
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Windows 8.1 (2013)
The screen broke on my Win 7 laptop so I bought a new one which had Win 8.1. I liked it but did not use the tiles.
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Windows 10. (July 2015)
I've now got Microsoft's latest baby and it runs well for me. I upgraded my existing laptops (free) from Win 7 and 8.1. The new 'Edge' browser is a disappointment so I don't use it.
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Windows 10 update April 2017
I've used Windows 10 since the July 2015 free upgrade and it is now very stable on my computers. It looks like this on my laptop, and the improved Edge browser now works (almost) ok for me. The 'Start' now has multi-item tiles.
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Windows 10 Version 1809 (OS Build 17763.292) at Feb 2019 in a new i5 Dell laptop
My Desktop ... it looks at bit like Windows 7
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Press the Windows key and the Win 10 Start Menu appears ... my current one.
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oldMohawk said:
My memories of Windows ... it makes a change from searching the Inner Circle bus route ...:grinning:
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great. i started off win 3 and dos 4, on a 8088 ibm pc, 640 mem and a woppin 10mg hard drive. had many of sleepless night
trying to format and set up the drive. with the bios. some times with out a settup disk you could not get in, the monitor a ibm ega, i mis the wini and sysi. . :grinning::grinning:what a geek.lol
 
In the early 1980s I was responsible for porting a well known company's accounting software from the original Apple ][ version onto each new personal computer as they came out. Commodore Pet, varions CP/M machines including the Superbrain, the original IBM PC (110 volts with a converter transformer that was always blowing), Various MS-DOS machines such as the Sirius & Victor, the Halesown-made Apricot (a dinky little thing), and many others.

The original Apple ][ only had 144Kb floppy drives and when Statutory Sick Pay was introduced, it required us to hold so much data for each employee that we had to codify it and compress it like mad, which of course slowed the system down somewhat. I had a huge U-shaped bench with RS232 sockets every few feet and power sockets. Once the source code had been ported, it was a case of modifying the code for each individual machine and compiling and testing. Happy days. :)

Maurice
 
mine had 360 kb. black floppy. some one gave me a old wang pc the f/drive in that was huge:laughing:, like a record.
rs232, i had to buy a adapter for my radios, rs232c to usb. this new laptop has no.cd no floppy. unless you are on the www you have probbs loading software. think i will change it for a bbc computer.:joy::joy::laughing:
 
mw0njm. said:
if you go to the microsoft site you can download win 10 free,i did. i bought a laptop with no op sys on it. and put win 10 onto it https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10. it did not cost me any thing. is that right the serial no of win is in the bios now?
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While you can download W10 from that site for free you do need a W10 license (as it says on that site).

However IF a computer has already had an official version of W10 on it then you don't need a license to reinstall W10 as Microsoft keep a copy of the hardware specifications when W10 is first installed so recognize if a computer is entitled to have W10 on it.

If a computer has NOT had W10 on it before then while you can install W10 without the need for a license it will eventually give out warnings and then stop working.

Personal opinion but I believe Microsoft are getting more "relaxed" about people installing W10 on older computers and so maybe DONT now expect to pay for a W10 license.

I think this is for 2 reasons:

1) They want to get as many people as they can OFF old releases of Windows as it is a pain for them to have to keep writing and testing fixes for old releases of Windows. If they "give away" W10 for free and someone puts it on an old computer it probably replaces an old release of Windows and that is one less old release of Windows.

2) Microsoft are desperate to keep the Windows usage a high as possible. As more and more people move to tablets and smartphones for their "computer" usage (and of course Microsoft are not in the phone business any more) there is a danger that the "market share" of Windows will drop as compared to other software platforms (Android, iOS, Apple PCs etc).

For their future influence (and profit) they MUST have a healthy Windows market share so are probably not that bothered about making people pay for individual copies of Windows.

They make their money on Windows "enterprise" licenses where large companies by thousands of licenses of Windows.
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Pete,

I remember the Wang, but if I remember right, that was a fairly standard CP/M machine, so would run the same version of software as we produced for the Superbrain. 360Kb would be 5 & 1/4 inches, and then there was the huge 8 inch floppies which could hold 1.2Mb of data. I think they were always an external drive rather than built in though. Strangely enough, we never ported to the BBC - I think it was lack of commercial users that influenced that decision. I must admit that I don't like laptops, particularly the keyboards, and CDs & DVDs are apparently on the way out. Difficult to get cassette drives these days too - it's a strange phenomenon called progress!

Maurice :-)
 
thanks for reply. i downloaded iso. then the software downloaded. it had a temp number.to install. it. then after that it has worked ok. the old licence was for 8.1 it was in the bios/or what ever. but it over wrote that number.
 
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