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This must have been a pub but what name

Mike

Thanks so you think it may have been called the Old Plough at sometime in its chequered past. The only record I could find of it being a pub was in the 1913 edition of Kelly's where it is described as a beer retailer owned by William Malachi Evans.

I must have missed your previous photos that you linked to, I have taken copies I know you won't mind. I will show them to my nephews a nieces who mother owned the café until she died this year.

Phil
 
Phil said:
I think it was called The Dog Inn on Alcester St, it was also later The Lighthouse Rescue Mission & Café for down and outs. I remember when my lads did some work there in the eighties they used the café around the corner.

Phil
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Spot on Phil. The Dog Inn. I think that's the Chamberlain Hotel in the mist? Rowton House?
 
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hi dennnis
before that front was built behind those gates there was an old pair of door gates as i remeber the buildinmg of that frontage
with a little space of a drive in and there was an house with some wrought iron gate and a little front gaden and the house windows was strange little windopws to it
wghen i first came across it i thought it reminded me of a vicars house was my first impression and years after when the polish centre was finished i said to y self i wonder whether or not may be there was a religion connection giving them building a front anmd behind those gates and drive which i used to see the van on may have been a one man operation some body working on his own but the little old morris comercial was always there parked in every sunday with out fail and of course the grave yard was next doorto the polish centre and that house facing maybe in the thirty or even before there could have been aconnectio to thechurch or some sort of relighion sect connected to it
but befoire that wall went up in 1953 4 and remembering the house along side it it is possible astonion
 
No 232 is listed on the electoral roll as old Plough up to 1935, but I suppose, in later years it could have been the old plough coffee rooms. It does look as if, in the directories, 231 and 232 seem to refer to the same building . Earlier than this period , in 1872, no 232 is not listed, but 231 is listed as a beer retailer run by James Lloyd. The 1871 census gives 232 as being occupied by a xxxx curer. No 231 is listed as unoccupied, but after 231 , in brackets is “why not” (including quotation marks) this use of quotation marks usually means a pub. McKenna states that the Why not was in Rea st on the corner with Moseley St, and that it was closed by the justices in 1912. So it does seem that 231 and 232 were one building with part occupied by a person separate from the pub.
Mike
 
Well astonian, the other thread started by Frothy in 2009 (long before my time on here began), seems to have eliminated the idea of it being the Vicarage to St Bartholomew's Church, and Phil posted a great shot of the place from Park Street, which I enclose again here. The ornate architecture suggests a private residence to me rather than some industrial premises, but still no clear idea of who lived there or what it 's function was (if it did had any). Not a Pub though. Thanks anyway. I guess we'll never know for sure. Thanks to all for your contributions and patience.
 
Phil said:
Perhaps someone could put a pub name name to this for me, it is on the corner of Moseley St and Rea St (north side) No 232 it is listed as a beer retailer and dining rooms but I am interested in if it was ever named as a pub anywhere. A photograph of it as a pub would be icing on the cake.

Phil
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Well here is the icing you asked for...well almost..
 
One that might have been on before my time? High Street, Deritend, just up from the Old Crown. The upper windows suggest it was an old Pub, and it was...
 
I'm going to have to stop you going to all these Pubs young Alf, I can't fool you for a minute! Here it is in all its sinister glory. Looks like my sort of boozer too. Now, off to the books to find a REALLY difficult one for Alfred...
 
This one may last a bit longer, two minutes instead of one... this time not telling you precisely what road it's in. Near the Bull Ring though...same area as before...
 
Must have been a long time ago when a pub was there, Dennis - The previous building on this site was built (or the frontage rebuilt) in 1925 for Buckingham's coachbuilders, who went 'bump' in 1930/1, seen here in a later guise of a tyre dealership (photo by motorman-mike).
 
Ah, that is on the other side of Mill Lane's junction with Bradford Street, and known to me in it's later life as Cheese's bicycles.
 
Well I'll be blowed. As you can see from the narrative accompanying the photo, the Deritend Society got it muxed ip again! Well spotted Lloyd.
 
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