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mike jenks
master brummie
Pelham Arms
Hi
Pelham seems to be an English word.
The meaning is given as
A town of Fur Skin.
Mike Jenks
Hi
Pelham seems to be an English word.
The meaning is given as
A town of Fur Skin.
Mike Jenks
Alf
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
This could have something to do with it.
https://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page172.asp
Although the name is big in USA???
https://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page172.asp
Although the name is big in USA???
Peter Walker
gone but not forgotten
Thanks Crom for the tram picture at Alum Rock. It reminded me of how the overhead wires over the single-track at the terminus were several inches higher than usual, so that the so that the bow collector flipped easily into a trailing position as soon as the tram changed direction on leaving the terminus.
I remember that the wires were quite low over the crossover in Great Francis Street, and it was not unknown for the bow not to flip over, causing extra friction and attrition both of the wire itself and of the collector contact 'pan'. The driver had no way of knowing the position of the bow, but the conductor could pull the bow collector cord at the back of the tram to flip it over.
Peter
I remember that the wires were quite low over the crossover in Great Francis Street, and it was not unknown for the bow not to flip over, causing extra friction and attrition both of the wire itself and of the collector contact 'pan'. The driver had no way of knowing the position of the bow, but the conductor could pull the bow collector cord at the back of the tram to flip it over.
Peter
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davena ward
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My grandad lived down pelham road for many years and also frequented the the Pelham arms "smoke room". I remember as a child , my mum used to go and get my grandad out of the smoke room which was for gentleman only.
When she went in to get him -i used to stand in the corridor and when the door opened a great cloud of smoke came waffing out the door.-How would the old folk cope now-with the smoking ban some to come into force ! :Aah:
When she went in to get him -i used to stand in the corridor and when the door opened a great cloud of smoke came waffing out the door.-How would the old folk cope now-with the smoking ban some to come into force ! :Aah:
Re: pelham
Quite right. There is now yet another Lidl store on the site. No suprise there!
Ian
Quite right. There is now yet another Lidl store on the site. No suprise there!
Ian
My family lived at one of the shops on Alum Rock Road, just along from the Pelham in 1940-1950s. My grandfather, Edgar Galpin, was a member of the bowling club that was based there. The bowling green was behind the pub.
At the age of 8 or 9, I was often sent down to the "Outdoor" or "Off-Licence" there, which was a dark, dingy hallway into the pub with a hatch that they served beer through if you took your own jug or bottle. I would have to get a pint of mild for my grandfather. I used to hate going because I wasn't tall enough to see over the counter of the hatchway and I always felt I was doing something illegal, going into a pub.
I also hated the smell - of beer and stale tobacco smoke.
Here is a photograph of my grandfather (holding the bowl) on the bowling green at the Pelham. He was also a member of a Snooker and Billiards Club that met in a wooden hut at the back of some houses in, I think, Sladefield Road - or one of the roads near there. I remember that that also smelled of tobacco smoke.
I don't know where the name Pelham comes from in the name Pelham Arms, as in the pub, but Pelham was the first name of P G Wodehouse - (Pelham Grenville).
At the age of 8 or 9, I was often sent down to the "Outdoor" or "Off-Licence" there, which was a dark, dingy hallway into the pub with a hatch that they served beer through if you took your own jug or bottle. I would have to get a pint of mild for my grandfather. I used to hate going because I wasn't tall enough to see over the counter of the hatchway and I always felt I was doing something illegal, going into a pub.
I also hated the smell - of beer and stale tobacco smoke.
Here is a photograph of my grandfather (holding the bowl) on the bowling green at the Pelham. He was also a member of a Snooker and Billiards Club that met in a wooden hut at the back of some houses in, I think, Sladefield Road - or one of the roads near there. I remember that that also smelled of tobacco smoke.
I don't know where the name Pelham comes from in the name Pelham Arms, as in the pub, but Pelham was the first name of P G Wodehouse - (Pelham Grenville).
Hi dolphie
beleive me it was nt bad news for the brewery
they lost a fortune there through rougue gathers and the wrong clients especialy in the 60-70=80s that i do know through my knowledge of being involved with the brewery as a manager
have a nice day astonian
beleive me it was nt bad news for the brewery
they lost a fortune there through rougue gathers and the wrong clients especialy in the 60-70=80s that i do know through my knowledge of being involved with the brewery as a manager
have a nice day astonian
Dolphie
master brummie
I didnt know the pub as a customer Astonian, more it's a shame that old buildings get knocked down & the 'Pelham' area I remember so well from my teen years as I'd catch the 28 bus home to Hodge Hill from there. I think my parents mentioned something about it being a bit of a dodgy pub altho as they never went into any pubs I assumed they must've read about it the papers??
roger a
master brummie
our family moved from cranby street to Essendon road(just off Pelham rd)in 1965 and i was always in and out the old Pelham and it wasn,t as bad as people made out i think the locals used to start the storys about how rough these pubs where to keep strangers out.I used to go in the rebuilt Pelham as well it was great when it opened but a series of bad managers soon ruined the place.
My grandparents lived just up the road from what was the Pelham Arms. At around the same time you had the Birmingham Municiple Bank on the opposite corner, the Capitol Picture House was just down the road, and most importantly, there was waht I think was a tv shop opposite ( maybe called Hawkins or similar ) which had a record department upstairs. Source of many of my first singles !
Thanks Dave from another Dave, that sounds about right, Allens, cheers !
HI DAVE
Just picked up this thread about the old Pelham and i knew the pelam for many years as i was involved with the brewers and some of the managements at the Pelham
On the subject of allens tv shop they were the orinional shop owners but for the latter time of the excistance of the shop ownership.
In later years closer to the end of the era whilst the Pelham was standing the shop was owned by Fred Parkin furniture shop for donkeys years after Allens
TV,S moved out. On the subject of the area along side of the Pelham the batch of shops including the bank my old boyhood friend
and still a long standing family friend bougt out those shops one by one which are opposite the picture house.
He was a building contractor whom christian name was Sid.
He also set another building merchants yard up behind those property's. I can say Sid has retired now and his sons have taken over the bulding trade
He has constructed big bulding for the NHS around the country he learnt his trade as a tea boy from scratch and learnt every think from boy to man;
and the person whom taught him the trade was a mr horton a age old bulder from victoria rd aston way back just after the war years
Sid as a young lad never spent any pocket money even his wages were always paid into a bank never spent a penny of it.
He worked hard and saved hard to get what he wanted and learnt the trade hard the name of his bussiness is still around and there vans of workers
i hope you did not mind me putting that info; in for you ;
have a nice day best wishes Astonian;
Just picked up this thread about the old Pelham and i knew the pelam for many years as i was involved with the brewers and some of the managements at the Pelham
On the subject of allens tv shop they were the orinional shop owners but for the latter time of the excistance of the shop ownership.
In later years closer to the end of the era whilst the Pelham was standing the shop was owned by Fred Parkin furniture shop for donkeys years after Allens
TV,S moved out. On the subject of the area along side of the Pelham the batch of shops including the bank my old boyhood friend
and still a long standing family friend bougt out those shops one by one which are opposite the picture house.
He was a building contractor whom christian name was Sid.
He also set another building merchants yard up behind those property's. I can say Sid has retired now and his sons have taken over the bulding trade
He has constructed big bulding for the NHS around the country he learnt his trade as a tea boy from scratch and learnt every think from boy to man;
and the person whom taught him the trade was a mr horton a age old bulder from victoria rd aston way back just after the war years
Sid as a young lad never spent any pocket money even his wages were always paid into a bank never spent a penny of it.
He worked hard and saved hard to get what he wanted and learnt the trade hard the name of his bussiness is still around and there vans of workers
i hope you did not mind me putting that info; in for you ;
have a nice day best wishes Astonian;
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Wendy
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Pelham Arms Alum Rock.
mike jenks
master brummie
Yep Grandad and Family lived near there. Dad 99.9 can remember his lemonade and crisps outside around 1924. Years later I was at Alston Road and we would walk via Belcher's Lane. We use to go to the Rock Cinema on Boxing day in the Mid 80's to see the Disney when Tim was around 8?
Happy days
Happy days
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A photograph of the Pelham Arms taken around 1920, a few years after the pub opened .....
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The Pelham Arms on Alum Rock Road in Birmingham
Photograph of the Pelham Arms on the corner of Alum Rock Road and Pelham Road in Birmingham in Warwickshire
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This view looks directly along Pelham Road with shops on the corner of Belcher's Lane. I have not looked up these businesses but the names above the shop fronts are L. J. Thomas and C. Richmond.
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Pelham Arms and shops on corner of Belcher's Lane
Photograph of the Pelham Arms with shops on the corner of Pelham Road and Belcher's Lane in Birmingham in Warwickshire
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This closer view of the Pelham Arms is thought to date from 1925 ....
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Pelham Arms on Alum Rock Road in Birmingham c.1925
Photograph of the Pelham Arms on the corner of Alum Rock Road and Pelham Road in Birmingham in Warwickshire c.1925
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Another view of the Pelham Arms in the 1920s. I think I paid £20 for this postcard but it is not sharp so I cannot read the smaller writing on the cart belonging to George's. I wonder what firm this was? Sparkling water perhaps?
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Pelham Arms on Alum Rock Road in Birmingham c.1926
Photograph of the Pelham Arms on the corner of Alum Rock Road and Pelham Road in Birmingham in Warwickshire c.1926
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A view of the corner across the road from the pub. I think that may be a K1 telephone box, similar to that at the Avoncroft Museum near Bromsgrove ...
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Corner of Alum Rock Road at The Pelham in Birmingham c.1926
Photograph of a Corner of Alum Rock Road at The Pelham in Birmingham in Warwickshire c.1926
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This view has a tram on Alum Rock Road but features the Pelham Arms in the background ...
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Tram on Alum Rock Road with the Pelham Arms
Photograph of a Tram on Alum Rock Road with the Pelham Arms in the background in Birmingham in Warwickshire
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This view looks directly along Pelham Road with shops on the corner of Belcher's Lane. I have not looked up these businesses but the names above the shop fronts are L. J. Thomas and C. Richmond.
Pelham Arms and shops on corner of Belcher's Lane
Photograph of the Pelham Arms with shops on the corner of Pelham Road and Belcher's Lane in Birmingham in Warwickshire
The gas-fitter Leonard James Thomas was at No.1 Pelham Road in Kelly's 1921 trade directory. The 1925 electoral roll shows Clara Richmond at No.20 Belcher's Lane. She later moved the short distance to 765 Alum Rock Road.
