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The Moat - Moat Row & Moat Lane

mikejee said:
That's great. A pity it is all covered now , but it is now protected, and luckily impossible to set alight.
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normally mike i would argue that all of our historical sites should be made visible to the public but this site is way off the scale as regards importance so like you i am glad it is covered over and safe from fire or vandals nicking bits off the site...think i am correct that it has under gone a couple of previous digs so we do have photographs and documentation as to the findings. as i said the link i posted is packed with info about the site

lyn
 
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I think there's a lot to be said about covering over in certain cases, this being one. Provided it's well documented with photos that's great. When the Council can find some money (?!!) maybe they could do one of those constructions on glass that show how it would have looked with the manor shown too. Good way for others, especially youngsters, to visualise the geographical history.
 
Astoness said:
looks like it viv...these photos must be from a series taken at the time..note the same lady sitting in the same place on both photos which actually i will post together making it easier to compare
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The Lady you mention on this post Lynn is actually a man if you zoom in the second picture, remember the guys sported long hair back then! Appreciate that you went to the trouble to get these,. Great photo's
 
What a pity there isn't a place where a section of the moat can be displayed.
When there was redevelopment in the Spitalfields area of London the old Charnel House below ground level was left in view under a very strong glass pavement.

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A Sparks said:
What a pity there isn't a place where a section of the moat can be displayed.
When there was redevelopment in the Spitalfields area of London the old Charnel House below ground level was left in view under a very strong glass pavement.

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wow sparks what a great idea but with the city strapped for cash i doubt it would ever happen but if it ever did just imagine the visitor attraction it would generate even if it could show just a small bit of the moat

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Astoness said:
wow sparks what a great idea but with the city strapped for cash i doubt it would ever happen but if it ever did just imagine the visitor attraction it would generate even if it could show just a small bit of the moat

lyn
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Yes, I'm sure you are right about the lack of money. I believe the project in Spitalfields was paid for by the developer of the modern building beside it - very nice to know that some developers are conscious of a city's history!
I have actually been inside the Charnel House, they do tours sometimes - very interesting place and a lot more to see down there.
 
brumgum said:
This is a picture of Moat Lane By Birmingham artist Colin Gabbidon...
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Cant get it?
 
i asked mike hodder what could happen to the moat area when the smithfield development started and he said this


"It does mean that the development will have to be designed to protect the moat and the remains of buildings it surrounded. This might involve preserving it under the development or possibly exposing some of it."

so with a lot of luck we may yet be able to see some of the moat area

lyn
 
Vivienne14 said:
In October 2023 this and other aspects of the moated area were listed as a scheduled monument. The listtng gives a very comprehensive account of the area, its history and its archaeological interest.

historicengland.org.uk

The de Birmingham moated site, the seat of the medieval Lords of Birmingham, Non Civil Parish - 1485852 | Historic England

List entry 1485852. Grade Not applicable to this List entry. Scheduled Monument: The De Birmingham Moated Site, The Seat Of The Medieval Lords Of Birmingham. May include summary, reasons for designation and history.
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same link that i posted on post 90 viv and i agree its well worth a read

lyn
 
I agree ASparks A small but busy settlement, suggesting lots of commercial activity. I also find interesting the fact that the manor (before it was replaced by the 1700s buiding) was originally stone built, so a very significant (and particularly important) feature . One thing that I've never understood is why the parsonage also needed to be moated. Was this usual ?
 
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