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mikejee said:
Not arguing about any of that Richard. I would agree. Itcwas the bit about the hydrogen generator being on the train that I could not , cannot, understand.
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Mike, there are numerous configurations using hydrogen as a power source. Most of the links etc that I have posted have the generator as a separate unit, as can be shown with the hydrogen being recharged. I think that most applications will have a hydrogen storage unit powering some form of engine generating electricity to power the vehicle. This would be much the same way as diesel electrics work. If I misspoke about the generator, my apologies. I have heard of such applications but are usually stationary applications, not always but mostly.
This whole thing is still settling out. There are so many different themes and variations depending upon the application and work location.
Hope that helps…
 
Here s my Jinty
I got 2
One Xmas I ran 1 and kept this one boxed
I just serviced the loco being running a hour time to put it back in its box
As my layout is GWR
PS i add pic later got Gremlins at mo
 
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What type of locomotive is a 'Jinty' and what were they used for ?​


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The term 'Jinty' refers to a specific type of steam locomotive that was commonly used in the United Kingdom. Officially known as the Fowler 3F Class, the Jinty locomotives were a class of small, tank engines that were designed for shunting and local freight duties. They were primarily used on industrial and suburban railway lines.

The Jinty locomotives were built by the London, Midland and Scottish Railway (LMS) between 1924 and 1931. They were given the nickname 'Jinty' due to their resemblance to a cartoon character called 'Ginny Jinty' that appeared in a popular comic strip at the time.
These locomotives had a 0-6-0 wheel arrangement, which means they had six driving wheels and no leading or trailing wheels. They were equipped with a small water tank and coal bunker, allowing them to operate without the need for a separate tender.

The Jinty locomotives were known for their versatility and reliability. They were well-suited for shunting duties, which involved moving wagons and carriages around in railway yards. They were also used for short-distance freight hauling, such as delivering goods to local industries and businesses.
Due to their compact size and good acceleration, Jinty locomotives were often used on suburban passenger services as well. They were capable of pulling a few carriages and were particularly useful on routes with frequent stops and short distances between stations.
The Jinty locomotives were a common sight on many railway lines in the UK during the mid-20th century. However, with the decline of steam traction and the advent of diesel and electric locomotives, the Jinty class gradually became obsolete. Over 400 Jinty locomotives were produced and at least 9 have been preserved and can still be seen in collections or in operation on heritage railways today.
 
The article by the train shop omitted the use of 'Jinty' locos on the Lickey Bank which is course appropriate to the Midlands.

There is a thread in which Phil, of blessed memory, posted in post 22 of such events.
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Thread 'Lickey Incline'

Although not fully related to Birmingham, most of the train buffs may find this link interesting:

https://lickeyarchive.photobook.org.uk/
 
initially 70000 was stored as a candidate for the National Railway Museum’s National Collection. However due to her prototype design and construction differences, and also to accident damage caused in a collision at Manchester shortly before withdrawal, the NRM instead selected 70013 Oliver Cromwell which had been maintained in good condition for the ‘end of steam’ enthusiast specials. Britannia was eventually bought by The Steam Locomotive Preservation Company Ltd in 1970

B.R. Standard Class "7MT" or "Britannia" 4-6-2 No.70000 "Britannia" in B.R. lined green and early (1949) BR emblem on the Victoria-Bath Spa-Bristol Temple Meads "Catherals Express" approaching Bath, 04/12.



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photo Hugh Llewelyn
 
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70000 Britannia

This engine was completed at Crewe works in January 1951 at a cost of £20,325. Britannia did not reach the high mileages of many of its classmates on the Great Eastern down to being selected as the…
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if you had 7000 Brittania number in your book you was a happy chappie i was
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British Railways Standard Class 7MT 4-6-2 No 70000 Britannia' departs New Street station on an up express on 22nd June 1963.
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photo lnwrbns br2900

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No. 9400 is a 9400 class 0-6-0 pannier tank steam locomotive that was built for the Great Western Railway (GWR) by Swindon Works in 1947. No. 9400 was one of the last batch of locomotives built at Swindon prior to nationalisation. It was initially allocated to Swindon shed where it remained working as a shunter until November 1955 when it was transferred to Old Oak Common.
No, 9400 was withdrawn from service in December 1959 and was selected for preservation to become part of the National Collection. It originally went on display in Swindon’s first GWR museum at Farrington Road but was later moved in 2000 to the Museum of the Great Western Railway, also known as Swindon Steam Railway Museum, in Swindon, England where it currently resides on static display.
 
i never saw one of these GWR loco's in service:(


The 1361 class of five short wheelbase locomotives designed for hauling heavy loads around exceptionally tight curves was built to replace almost identical but worn-out Victorian locomotives. Their design was based on the 1392 class of the Cornwall Mineral Railways, and they were the last saddle tank engines built by the GWR who, unusually for such small machines of this type, fitted them with outside cylinders. They remained virtually unaltered throughout their long working life .After withdrawal from BR Service 1363 eventually being bought by a group of GWS members and presented to the Society. She trundled in steam to Totnes in August 1964, where she was restored to full working order. In May 1969, 1363 moved to the Society depot at Bodmin, where she received a new front buffer beam, fabricated on a submarine depot courtesy of the Royal Navy. Upon closure of the Bodmin Depot she again moved, this time to Didcot where, after several years in use, and then on static display, she is now under overhaul once more.1739124386076.jpeg
 
mw0njm. said:
i never saw one of these GWR loco's in service:(


The 1361 class of five short wheelbase locomotives designed for hauling heavy loads around exceptionally tight curves was built to replace almost identical but worn-out Victorian locomotives. Their design was based on the 1392 class of the Cornwall Mineral Railways, and they were the last saddle tank engines built by the GWR who, unusually for such small machines of this type, fitted them with outside cylinders. They remained virtually unaltered throughout their long working life .After withdrawal from BR Service 1363 eventually being bought by a group of GWS members and presented to the Society. She trundled in steam to Totnes in August 1964, where she was restored to full working order. In May 1969, 1363 moved to the Society depot at Bodmin, where she received a new front buffer beam, fabricated on a submarine depot courtesy of the Royal Navy. Upon closure of the Bodmin Depot she again moved, this time to Didcot where, after several years in use, and then on static display, she is now under overhaul once more.View attachment 198919
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Nice touch the early emblem
 
1739125720961.jpegPannier 6710, following a Swindon works visit c 1936, showing the position of the 12" diameter roundel. This loco was built with riveted tanks by one of the outside contractors (Bagnalls), and was a 'goods-only' loco, with 3-link couplings, no vacuum brake, steam heating, or ATC. The dome and safety valve cover are shiny, but are in bodywork green.
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The first known application of the roundel is the hand-drawn version on 1 June 1934, in the photo and predates the official drawing of a month later, from which the production transfers were ordered.
 
mw0njm. said:
View attachment 198924Pannier 6710, following a Swindon works visit c 1936, showing the position of the 12" diameter roundel. This loco was built with riveted tanks by one of the outside contractors (Bagnalls), and was a 'goods-only' loco, with 3-link couplings, no vacuum brake, steam heating, or ATC. The dome and safety valve cover are shiny, but are in bodywork green.
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The first known application of the roundel is the hand-drawn version on 1 June 1934, in the photo and predates the official drawing of a month later, from which the production transfers were ordered.
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I only have 1 loco a Bachmann pannier with that emblem
Great photo
 
The GWR Roundel or 'Shirtbutton'1739168567689.jpeg monogram was used on GWR locos and rolling stock during the period 1934–1942. On locos it was in gilt with a black outline, positioned in the center of the tank or tender sides. At only 12" in diameter, it was unfortunately rather small, so could be somewhat insignificant in these locations, often disappearing entirely when wheathering set in.
On coaches, the monogram was carried in the center below the waist, while 'brown' vehicles and containers carried the monogram in various locations on the sides. The monogram looked considerably better on the brown stock, where it was applied in yellow. Ordinary grey goods vehicles never carried the monogram, retaining the letters 'G W'R


The GWR Coat of Arms were used in the form seen here from 1927–1933, and again from 1942 to Grouping in 1947.
On locomotives this version replaced the earlier garter crest (which included the coat of arms) in 1927, although only used on the lined express passenger classes.
On rolling stock, the Coat of Arms was used on coach sides from 1928, along with the simplified chocolate and cream livery introduced one year earlier in 1927.
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The Great Western Railway Coat of Arms, also known as the Garter Crest. A garter can be seen surrounding the original coat of arms which contained the city shields for London (left) and Bristol (right). The Garter Crest was used on GWR vehicles from the late 1800s through to about 1912​

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Llanidloes station, with southbound Mid-Wales line train.View northward, towards Moat Lane Junction: ex-Cambrian Railway Mount Lane - Builth - Three Cocks line. Back in 1949, ex-Cambrian or ex-GW 0-6-0's worked most of the traffic on this line, which was closed on 31/12/62 although goods traffic continued as far as Llanidloes until 4/5/64. No. 2483 is a GW 'Dean Goods' 0-6-0 (built 5/1896, withdrawn 9/52).
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By Ben Brooksbank
 
mw0njm. said:
'Dean Goods' 0-6-0

The British Army in France 1939-40A War Department railway locomotive at the Royal Engineers base supply park depot at Rennes, November 1939.

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Keating G (Lt), War Office official photographer
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Wonderful series of posts Pete, thank you for those, very emotional for me. I know they are “worker locos” but they are truly a part the golden age of steam! At least in my mind…..
 
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