Richard Dye
master brummie
Great story!I thought this was a nice touch...
Dave A
Hampshire's Watercress Line steam railway lit up in festive lights
The railway features a bridge that appeared in the Harry Potter movies.www.bbc.com
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Steam Locos
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mw0njm.
A Brummie Dude
where did you get that hat
A 100-year-old photo collection showing a family of railway workers in the West Midlands has been donated to the National Railway Museum in York after being found in the back of a wardrobe.
They show his family members in front of different steam locomotives, alongside his colleagues, mainly at Bescot Junction Works, near Walsall. The photographs provide a unique snapshot of life on the railways at the turn of the century.
A 100-year-old photo collection showing a family of railway workers in the West Midlands has been donated to the National Railway Museum in York after being found in the back of a wardrobe.They show his family members in front of different steam locomotives, alongside his colleagues, mainly at Bescot Junction Works, near Walsall. The photographs provide a unique snapshot of life on the railways at the turn of the century.
Fascinating photos! The first is of a Webb compound 2-8-0 in full LNWR lined livery taken in pregrouping (before 1923) days, confirmed by the dress style of the ladies, and I suspect prior to the first world war, whereas the second is taken, I'm guessing, about twenty years later. The loco is a Fowler 4F 0-6-0 in early LMS livery (post 1923) and again the dress of the men suggests late 20s/1930ish.where did you get that hat
They show his family members in front of different steam locomotives, alongside his colleagues, mainly at Bescot Junction Works, near Walsall. The photographs provide a unique snapshot of life on the railways at the turn of the century.
Radiorails
master brummie
I visited York at the time all A4's were present. It was the showpiece at the time, as the two from America and Canada were present.
Curly
master brummie
A little late to the party...........
"No Mum, I didn't go near the railway!" ............but the press let the cat out of the bag...myself and my 3yo sister (in the white hooded coat) with me to her right, (in shorts) in Ward End Park 1959. Published by the Evening Mail and reprinted by Metro News in 1999. The loco is in the NRM in York (now streamlined)
Well and truly busted!
"No Mum, I didn't go near the railway!" ............but the press let the cat out of the bag...myself and my 3yo sister (in the white hooded coat) with me to her right, (in shorts) in Ward End Park 1959. Published by the Evening Mail and reprinted by Metro News in 1999. The loco is in the NRM in York (now streamlined)
Well and truly busted!
Attachments
You want accuracy from newspaper reporters!?
adap2it
master brummie
Oh yes, the diversion, what a bonanza!A little late to the party...........
"No Mum, I didn't go near the railway!" ............but the press let the cat out of the bag...myself and my 3yo sister (in the white hooded coat) with me to her right, (in shorts) in Ward End Park 1959. Published by the Evening Mail and reprinted by Metro News in 1999. The loco is in the NRM in York (now streamlined)
Well and truly busted!
Dave A
It was a fact that passed me by that often, during the weekends, the main line traffic on the west coast main line was diverted via the Grand Junction route and passed through the suburbs of Birmingham via Stechford & Willenhall and back on to the WCML at Stafford. If only I had known how close my beloved LMS pacifics had been when travelling so close to where we were in B'ham, I'd have pestered my parents to leave me by the lineside. Oh, what a lost opportunity!?A little late to the party...........
"No Mum, I didn't go near the railway!" ............but the press let the cat out of the bag...myself and my 3yo sister (in the white hooded coat) with me to her right, (in shorts) in Ward End Park 1959. Published by the Evening Mail and reprinted by Metro News in 1999. The loco is in the NRM in York (now streamlined)
Well and truly busted!
That advertising slogan takes us back a while!if you like a lot of Chocolate on your loco join the club
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
There is an exclusive feature in the Winter 2021 edition of the Blackcountryman magazine, by Keith Hodgkins….Terry Hyde. A steam Photographer. Terry had donated his archive of railway photos covering much of the Black Country in the period 1959-63.
In the article there are over a dozen photos of steam locos including 5072, 78008, 6418, 49410, 46115, 61258, 49377, 6828, 6946.
In the article there are over a dozen photos of steam locos including 5072, 78008, 6418, 49410, 46115, 61258, 49377, 6828, 6946.
mw0njm.
A Brummie Dude
thanks p. i had a look they are good
Ray Griffiths
master brummie
I bet they are going to start a garden railway
"Tivvy Bumper" locomotive 1442 in its original resting-place on Blundell's Road, Tiverton, photographed in 1968
Ray Griffiths
master brummie
Is it still on site I remember seeing in the 1960's
Bob Davis
Bob Davis
Now in Tiverton museum itself.
Bob
Ray Griffiths
master brummie
thanks we moved to North Devon 15 years wondered what had happened to iy
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
It is good that City of Birmingham has been preserved as part of the National Collection, but I have to ask whether it's current guardians are serving it well. It is still in the paint job that it got when it was sent for its final "resting place" at the then Science Museum in Newhall Street. I saw it there in 1973, but since it's move to the "Think Tank" I wonder if it's really appreciated.
It's one of three members of this superb class of locos now preserved. Of the other two, 46229 "Duchess of Hamilton" has now been re-instated into its streamlined form and is in the York railway museum in its glorious red and gold paint job. Having done many years as a stalwart performer on the main line (I have personally travelled behind it twice on the Settle & Carlisle line), I have mixed feelings that it is now imprisoned in York, leaving 46233 Duchess of Sutherland as the only class member now capable of working on the rail network.
Which is better? To have the loco preserved "in aspic" or to have it working? Either is better than having them turned into scrap metal, but it still leaves us with a dilemma. What do you think?
This question has been raised on other platforms too. The consensus seems to be that to get the City of Birmingham running on steam again would involve considerable and substantial modifications to meet safety standards. When you couple this with the astronomical cost of keeping a vintage steam locomotive running on steam, not only would it be financially inviable, the level of modification would go well beyond conservation.
mw0njm.
A Brummie Dude
Johnfromstaffs
Johnfromstaffs
These locomotives are now 80+ years old, and, millionaire philanthropists apart, it seems beyond the bounds of sensibility that any of the survivors could be expected to continue indefinitely earning their living on main lines. I think we should appreciate what we’ve got, and the efforts of those maintaining the status quo, especially on Duchess of Sutherland.
I also wonder about the viability of rakes of elderly coaches being dragged down the WCML at the speeds necessary to keep out of the way of the modern train traffic. No doubt someone will advise me if they think I am being too pessimistic.
Cheers
I also wonder about the viability of rakes of elderly coaches being dragged down the WCML at the speeds necessary to keep out of the way of the modern train traffic. No doubt someone will advise me if they think I am being too pessimistic.
Cheers
No, I think we have to be realistic about the preservation movement and we should be grateful that there are so many people in the movement who are prepared to put in the time and effort to ensure that locos and stock are as well maintained as they are. I suspect the standards of safety applied to both are better than when these were running in the BR steam era.
Johnfromstaffs
Johnfromstaffs
It is very pleasing to hear the comment about standards of safety, and I shall take comfort from that next time I am sitting in a Mk3 doing 85mph down the WCML behind a type 40!