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Actually the Southern locomotive (photo 5) is a Merchant Navy class which in 1941 would be new. The true number, at that time would have been 21C3 (not 2103) and named Royal Mail after the steamer line, later becoming 35003 under British Railways. SR locomotive 2103 was an 0-6-0 tank engine.
West Country class (which had suggested and have now changed) was not built until the end of WW2 in Europe; the first in 1945.
 
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No 3 is 6220 Coronation Scot in Blue, but renumbered as 6100 Royal Scot which went for a tour of America in 1939. Trust me to guess wrong on the GWR streamliner, I forgot they did a King as well, done in 1936 it was not a success and both engines were quickly returned to normal

Bob
 
Bob Davis said:
No 3 is 6220 Coronation Scot in Blue, but renumbered as 6100 Royal Scot which went for a tour of America in 1939. Trust me to guess wrong on the GWR streamliner, I forgot they did a King as well, done in 1936 it was not a success and both engines were quickly returned to normal

Bob
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Sorry Bob, but that loco is red, not blue and it is 6229 Duchess of Hamilton which has been renumbered & renamed 6220 Coronation. (6229 was in better condition than 6220, which was blue and masqueraded as 6229 for a time). It is being loaded aboard the Christen Smith heavy lift ship Belpamela for the trip to America to appear at the 1939 New York Worlds fair. It stayed in America for about 3 years and toured extensively before being returned to the UK. On its return, the two locos then swapped identities back, so the presently preserved Duchess of Hamilton is the one which went to the US.

Incidentally, you are right that 6100 Royal Scot did go to the US but it was in 1933, and it was a different type of loco.
 
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Ex GWR Hall Class loco 5972 Olton Hall
5972 Olton Hall. Built April 1937. First shed allocation Neath. August 1950 shed allocation Carmarthen. Fitted with 3 row superheater. March 1959 shed allocation Plymouth Laira. Last shed allocation Cardiff East Dock. Withdrawn December 1963. Acquired by Woodham's, Barry May 1964. Sold to Procor (U.K.) Ltd in Wakefield and left as the 125th departure from Barry May 1981.
 
TerryD147 said:
Sorry Bob, but that loco is red, not blue and it is 6229 Duchess of Hamilton which has been renumbered & renamed 6220 Coronation. (6229 was in better condition than 6220, which was blue and masqueraded as 6229 for a time). It is being loaded aboard the Christen Smith heavy lift ship Belpamela for the trip to America to appear at the 1939 New York Worlds fair. It stayed in America for about 3 years and toured extensively before being returned to the UK. On its return, the two locos then swapped identities back, so the presently preserved Duchess of Hamilton is the one which went to the US.

Incidentally, you are right that 6100 Royal Scot did go to the US but it was in 1933, and it was a different type of loco.
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A link to the Belpamela:
1947 was the year she sank. My interest in her lies in the lost SNCF locomotives.
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SNCF Class 141R - Wikipedia

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Ex GWR Hall Class loco 5972 Olton Hall
5972 Olton Hall. Built April 1937. First shed allocation Neath. August 1950 shed allocation Carmarthen. Fitted with 3 row superheater. March 1959 shed allocation Plymouth Laira. Last shed allocation Cardiff East Dock. Withdrawn December 1963. Acquired by Woodham's, Barry May 1964. Sold to Procor (U.K.) Ltd in Wakefield and left as the 125th departure from Barry May 1981.
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I have model form Hornbyt it is a castle not a hall.
 

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In the Harry Potter films the locomotive carries the nameboard "Hogwarts Castle", it's true ... but, as Radiorails says above, the actual engine is a Great Western Railway Hall class locomotive.
mw0njm, if you look at the steampipe on your model, it's curved. This is a characteristic of Kings and Castles. So your model is a Great Western Railway Castle class locomotive. It has been wrongly numbered: 5972 is a Hall, and, as Radiorails so rightly tells us, the loco in the films is, in fact, Olton Hall in disguise.
 
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In the Harry Potter films the locomotive carries the nameboard "Hogwarts Castle", it's true ... but, as Radiorails says above, the actual engine is a Great Western Railway Hall class locomotive.
mw0njm, if you look at the steampipe on your model, it's curved. This is a characteristic of Kings and Castles. So your model is a Great Western Railway King class locomotive. It has been wrongly numbered: 5972 is a Hall, and, as Radiorails so rightly tells us, the loco in the films is, in fact, Olton Hall in disguise.
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thanks .for that i never noticed until yesterday i saw the steam pipes and though this is not a hall. 3 were made
 

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Sir Nigel Gresley at Pickering Station 22/7/15 (slight problem with reflections on the third picture!)

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When Flying Scot and Tornado were on the SVR in 2016, they were using the original 1930s LNER coaching stock as shown in your second picture. It was an 80th birthday treat bought by my children and our coach was a luxurious first class dining car built 1936, 80 years old.
Bob
 
The week Tornado took to service.It came to Kent.Have a lovely video I took of it coming through Westgate on Sea.
Seen it in Green & Blue. Blue is the better colour for it.
 
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thanks .for that i never noticed until yesterday i saw the steam pipes and though this is not a hall. 3 were made
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There's a tremendous mix-up here! The first two models are based on GWR Castle class locomotives and are similar. Their curved steampipes can be clearly seen. The third model has a straight steampipe, which was so in Hall, Manor, County, Grange and other GWR classes of engine.
All three carry the nameboard "Hogwarts Castle". In the first two the name "Castle" corresponds to the loco; the third model is not a Castle so it's carrying an inappropriate name.
All three have the same number: 5972 which is the number of the Hall class locomotive named Olton Hall, the engine which was used in the Harry Potter films, but renamed wrongly as a Castle. So the first and second models bear a number which doesn't correspond to the class of locomotive.
Phew!
 

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Tornado is undergoing winter maintenance and still seems to be in apple green.
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Late March overhaul update - The A1 Steam Locomotive Trust

Here is another update from Richard Pearson following the progress of Tornado’s winter overhaul. All photos by Richard Pearson. In order to ensure we have the funds available for No. 60163 Tornado’s overhauls we need to raise in excess of £250,000 each year. Our Covenantor scheme – an A1 for...
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db84124 said:
There's a tremendous mix-up here! The first two models are based on GWR Castle class locomotives and are similar. Their curved steampipes can be clearly seen. The third model has a straight steampipe, which was so in Hall, Manor, County, Grange and other GWR classes of engine.
All three carry the nameboard "Hogwarts Castle". In the first two the name "Castle" corresponds to the loco; the third model is not a Castle so it's carrying an inappropriate name.
All three have the same number: 5972 which is the number of the Hall class locomotive named Olton Hall, the engine which was used in the Harry Potter films, but renamed wrongly as a Castle. So the first and second models bear a number which doesn't correspond to the class of locomotive.
Phew!
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thanks for input:grinning:
 
From the horses mouth I guess:
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Locomotives - Vale of Rheidol Railway

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The link gives the history of 1213/9 which is interesting. I have never been that au fait with NG stock.
Also mentioned is the earlier Cambrian Railways (V of R) NG 2--6-2T 1213 Prince of Wales of 1902 which. it seems, was surreptitiously scrapped meaning 1213 was, in effect, a new engine.
There was a more well known GWR locomotive named Prince of Wales viz: 4041 a Star Class 4-6-0 of 1913 which survived until 1951.
 
Hi,

I know nothing about the VOR Railway, but I have a Preservation Datafile book from
1993 which states that VOR have 3 locos - nos 7, 8 and 9 (1213), and that whilst 7 and 8
were built in 1923 at Swindon, 9 was built 1902 by Davies and Metcalfe at Romiley. This
is the same info given in the 1953 Ian Allen GWR ABC which also states that the cylinders
were 11" x 17"" for no9, whilst 7 and 8 had 11 1/2" x 17" cylinders. It only shows these 3 locos for the VOR.

But the PD book also mentions that 9 was originally VOR No 2., so I guess it must be an earlier build.
Perhaps measuring the cylinder bore would put that one to bed.
Intriguing.

Kind regards
Dave
 
Why would the GWR want those engines? They had a large fleet of their own Swindon and Wolverhampton built 0-6-0' tank engines plus some of the amalgamated other lines products. Besides the GW and MR had often been a loggerheads in the 19th. century.
 
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