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Smith William, sawyer, Upper Marshall Street 1851 census
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MWS
from Bham
Is it George Road Lyn or George Street?
MWS
from Bham
Thanks.
104 George St is still there then.
104 George St is still there then.
That IS compelling evidence! Thank you for pointing that out. i think that clinches the connection with the Adderley Street baptism!
I have tried in vain to find this couple on the 1841 census….William and Sarah married in 1833 and Hannah was born in 1845…so she was still alive then…so I should be able to find the two of them together somewhere in Warwickshire on the 1841 census. Then again, the 1841 census does seem to have been rather haphazard.
MWS
from Bham
It does seem that even from the limited evidence available that Hannah's father appeared to have a few different jobs before finally settling down as a chemical labourer.
On the 1851 census he appears to be listed as Pearl Button (?) Maker and on the 1841 there is a William Smith of the right age living in Gosta Green who is listed as the same. Wife is Sarah but the age is a little way out to correspond with the Smith/Wilkinson marriage so not sure. There are 2 children but there is not a Smith/Wilkinson reg. for either.
I don't like to advise people to spend money but it may be wise to purchase a copy of Hannah's birth certificate for more confirmation. And also Sarah's death certificate though there are a few it might be, Jun 1849 reg. Aston being the most likely. Digital images are just £3.00.
Also on the 1891 census William is listed as having had a stroke.
I think you have all solved one of my longest standing mysteries of my family tree. Using the information a number of you have contributed, I first found the marriage of William Smith to Sarah Wilkinson in Kenilworth St. Nicholas in October 1833. So this must be where the idea of a Kenilworth birth for Hannah came from. Then I managed to find the birth certificate of Hannah Smith shown here….as you can see, Adderley Street is the place and her mother is Sarah Wilkinson….and her father was not a lock maker but a lock-gate keeper, which makes sense as I presume that is not a skilled job…he seemed to take on unskilled jobs such as sawyer later in life. So, a huge thank you to everyone on the forum who kept on trying to help me. My mistake was concentrating on the profession of Sawyer, which he did take up in later life….and on believing that the Kenilworth birthplace must be correct. I have learned a lot from this. I think the members on this forum are brilliant!
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and you only joined us last saturday brotog
not wishing to blow our own trumpets but we do have some very skilled researchers on the forum who over the years has taught us including me not to always believe what is written down..look outside the box and sometimes take info with a pinch of salt..lyn
MWS
from Bham
I think we've all been caught out by incorrect information on the censuses etc. If you're lucky you realise it quite soon but it can lead you down the wrong path and to a lot of wasted research.
And on the subject of jobs, I'd guess for William when he moved to Bham and coming from a rural area, like a lot of people in his position, there was not much he could do except manual work and he took whatever he could get.
And on the subject of jobs, I'd guess for William when he moved to Bham and coming from a rural area, like a lot of people in his position, there was not much he could do except manual work and he took whatever he could get.