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Passages, Alleyways Gulletts and Snickets of Old Brum

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Paul, this picture is off Google but I would not know the date, as to the location it is listed as 17, Temple Street.
 
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Regents Row off Warstone Lane was a honeycomb of workshops. 1900.
 
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thank you for the location paul...how lovely to see that the old building on the right is still standing..

lyn
 
Thanks for that Paul but I have found the piece of paper and edited to post.
 
When I first saw this photo I thought how clean it seems to be (and the young people seem clean too) but maybe it's the way the photo was taken. And how young some of those boys are. Viv.
 
I've just been looking through this thread, it's such a good one. I have to say that it's a crying shame that so many photos are still missing. I thought something was going to be done about missing photos on threads that were uploaded by members that no longer post to the forum for one reason or another.

In the meantime here is a photo of Phillips Street that ran from the Bull Ring to Worcester Street along the length of the Old Market Hall. It looks as if it was taken shortly before demolition, and was taken from the Worcester St end.

Phil
 

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Phil,

I think I'm right in saying that if the original poster has left the Forum, or is otherwise unwilling or unable to repost his/her images, we are scuppered and the material is lost. The only hope then is if someone else copied/saved an image from the thread and would be willing to repost it.

It's all a great shame, as you say, and a huge loss to this archive of Birmingham history. We can only hope that the original posters will do what they can - as many, like yourself, have already been doing.

Chris
 
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Fabian was asking for information on Scotland Passage and Orwell Passage.
In my Wakelin's Guide Scotland passage was "34 High St. Cen." and Orwell Passage was near Allison St. I haven't heard of either before.
I discovered one of my relatives was born in Gooseberry Alley, Warstone Lane, I think it sounds nicer than it probably was!!!
rosie.
 
This is Scotland Passage that ran at the side of the Co op on High Street down to Moor St.

Chris I have a great many of the photos that are missing from this thread. If you want them so that you may replace them you are welcome to whatever you want. Or if you delete the posts where they are supposed to be and let me have a list of what you have deleted I will repost them acknowledging the original poster.
 

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Fabian was asking for information on Scotland Passage and Orwell Passage.
In my Wakelin's Guide Scotland passage was "34 High St. Cen." and Orwell Passage was near Allison St. I haven't heard of either before.
I discovered one of my relatives was born in Gooseberry Alley, Warstone Lane, I think it sounds nicer than it probably was!!!
rosie.

Scotland Passage was the narrowest thoroughfare in Brum, which linked Moor Street and High Street, being only 8ft 6ins wide. It disappeared during post-war construction. Orwell Street was only named in 1923, and has no link to George Orwell according to the Bham library.

Some pics to go with Phil's lovely posts.

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Does anyone remember cromwell passage .it ran from upper highgate street through to moseley rd conybere st end ......we called it pros alley for obvious reasons.lol
 
Scotland Passage was the narrowest thoroughfare in Brum, which linked Moor Street and High Street, being only 8ft 6ins wide. It disappeared during post-war construction. Orwell Street was only named in 1923, and has no link to George Orwell according to the Bham library.

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|Dennis nice to see your input I,ve missed your posts.Dek
 
Paul
go tp post 645, which is where the pictures were actually posted. They show up fine there
 
|Dennis nice to see your input I,ve missed your posts.Dek

i agree dek....dennis its good to see you back posting and re posting some of the great lost images on the thread that you started..not an easy task as you will see some threads are still in chaos as a result of the hacking..thanks for your efforts and l look forward to seeing you more often now...

lyn
 
Dennis

I agree entirely with what Lyn & Dek have said, perhaps if you can manage to reinstate all your missing images the thread will begin to look a bit tidier. If you have any difficulty in re-acquiring any photos, you know where you can contact me if you think I can help.

Phil
 
A million thanks for your kind messages of support you three. I fully intend to fill in as many blanks as I can, but I don't have all of the images filed, nor can I always remember the necessary photo that matches the text. But hey ho. I'll do my best if I can technically manage it. My Mac does not appear wholly compatible with the technology of the site (or more likely I don't). I tried three times yesterday to put 'Union St Stamp shop' in the appropriate place, and it would not accept it....but it let me put the Union Passage four in...I will try again later. Maybe it was the unseasonal sunshine? In the words of Captain Scott "I may be some time..."

Meanwhile, may I add this little gem, not seen on this Thread before methinks. Stone Yard. "In 1880s came Walter Frederick Bannocks, newly established as a mason in marble, granite and slate. His successors, W.F.Bannocks Ltd of Hall Green, have put a polshed sheen of marble 'cladding' on many of Birmingham's buildings since the War". Thus spake Viv Bird in his "Streetwise' booklet in 1991....

The 18th Century, half-timbered pub is the Hope & Anchor in Green Street. It is said in the "Tyme Gentlemen Please" publication, from whence this photo comes, that the pub was the "property of the Deritend Chapel", so this might make it like the Bell, Harborne, if that was the case..?

Stone Yard is still there, but Chapel House Lane is now just the continuation of Birchall Street, and the Irish Centre is now where St John's was... Birchall Street was named after a grove of Birch trees long since gone. allegedly.


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Dennis

As I said, if you can't find and I have got it then it's yours, as for remembering the correct photo. Well just do as I did when faced with the same situation just use the one that you think best fits the description, because you can be sure of one thing if you can't remember which one it was then nobody else is going to. Besides any photo that fits the description is better than a blank, and in an emergency you can even alter the text.

As for difficulties in reposting you may find that you need to alter the size of the photo a little or even change the title of it a little, because as far a I understand it the forums memory still thinks the original photo is still there.

Phil
 
Wise counsel, as ever Phil. Thanks for that. I will commence soonest...and to prove it I altered the size of the file in Post No 11, and it re-posted bostingly, as we say in Yardley....
 
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Oh yes the dental clinic .it was barbaric the way they gassed you pulled your teeth out and dragged you to a chair to spit into a tiny sink while you were barely concious ....
 
Cuppateabiscuit

Any idea what happened to this magnificent building THE OLD GREY HOUSE, which I posted earlier on a Union Street / Union Passage bit in the early days of this Thread? It looks yea ancient and I wondered on it's provenance and fate? Any ideas?


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On the 'birminghamstreets.blogspot' site please refer to the Waterloo Bar page and then again to Christchurch Passage and the addition of "Waterloo Bar that isn't". With the photo below and using Stanford and Mann on the left as a guide, here is what replaced the Waterloo Bar when completed in 1927 for Rowan's mens outfitters. The location now is-as far as the bottom half of the premises is concerned-the New Street Halifax Building Society.

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=Dennis Williams;461288]Cuppateabiscuit

Any idea what happened to this magnificent building THE OLD GREY HOUSE, which I posted earlier on a Union Street / Union Passage bit in the early days of this Thread? It looks yea ancient and I wondered on it's provenance and fate? Any ideas?

Hi Dennis,

What an amazing image! The Old Grey House is one of the wings/side buildings of the dispensary on Union Street, designed by William Hollins built from about 1806 I think (I'll check). You can see one of the pilasters (flat columns) of the main part of the dispensary on the left. Even though the dispensary has been demolished, a sculture that was over the door (of Hygeia...(spelling is wrong)) that was by Hollins is either in the museum or somewhere; surviving anyhow. The building looks really old, but not quite as old as it looks, but by the 1950s there wasn't a huge amount from this era I don't think. I can't remember when the Dispensary was demolished, but I'm guessing this went along with it at a similar time.




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