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Old street pics..

Radiorails said:
An interesting post about Miller Street with particular reference to the former tram/bus depot.

Miller St the last bus to dpart was...

THE LAST BUS TO DEPART... A day in the life of a Bus Garage, or The Last Bus to Depart... If the former Tram and Bus garage in Miller St could talk what tales would it tell? Miller street tram garage opened up in 1904 as a tram depot, now history does not tell us...
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Alan, that is a VERY interesting article and history lesson!
 
This notice below shows some addresses.
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The view below shows Miller Street in 1951 running diagonally from top left to bottom right. The houses on the nearest side (odd numbers) probably include numbers 155, 159 and 161 but I have not yet seen an old map with these house numbers on it. They look like domestic houses and although it is 10 years after the bombing I can't see signs of any bomb damage but they were quick to repair houses in the original styles back then.
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A good view of the Courts attached to some of the houses
1951MillerCourts.jpg
aerial views are from the 'britainfromabove' website.
 
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Big Gee said:
I insured my first cars at P M Hart on Newtown Row. There was always a queue in there. The company moved to Great Barr at some point, but as far as I'm aware no longer exist.

I remember The House That Jack Built very well - it was one of my mother's favourite places for hardware and other bits and pieces.

G
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L remember Phill Hart as a speeway rider for The Brummies Iwas born in Manchester St 936
 
oldMohawk said:
This aerial view dated 1951 shows the area on the map in post#5705. The house marked with the red dot appears to be house number 169 on the post#5705 map so where would numbers 161/163 be?
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A map below dated 1937 with number 169 marked. Regarding numbers 161/163 the properties east of Elkington St appear to be domestic housing.
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aerial view is from the 'britainfromabove' website.
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The area shown as Walmer Recreation Ground was known as Blews St Park (I always thought it was Blue St).
Dave A
 
I am trying to find what year this photo of ME and MY sister Joan was taken, There is a TROLLEY BUS in the background what year is this bus? I was born in 1933 Joan 1936 I look about 5 years old could this have been taken that long ago poss 1938?120508535_2860517364048281_7693947472795951242_n.jpg
 
Trolleybuses, that ran on the Coventry Road routes were introduced on 5th. January, 1934, continuing until 30th. June, 1951. I get the impression of 1939 is their still is an offside destination blind.
 
I am thinking that the trollybus that you see was one of 50 Leyland/Metro-Cammell bought in 1934 for the Coventry Road routes. Further buses were bought in 1939 and 1940 and all were withdrawn in 1951.
 
Re : aerial photos of Miller St. post #5710.

Here are 3 maps from 1950. I've attempted to rotate the first 2 to line them up with the photos a bit better.

Miller St 1.jpg
Elkington St is at the bottom. The houses within the bottom triangle seem to match.

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Again Elkington St is at the bottom, Miller St on the right.

Miller St 3.jpg
And here is Miller St in the vicinity of 155 to 161 but they're not there. Nothing between 107 & 169. I wonder if the numbering has changed because the older maps look pretty much the same.
 
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Astoness said:
right here we go folks.

lee bank road dated 1953

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gt russell st dated 1965

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We're in Lawrence st, Birmingham 4, United Kingdom...then July 11th, Cabramatta hostel, Sydney, Australia ( one month 2 days_Fairsky Italian ship) 9 mths old army corrugated barracks no fly screens/insulation, Dad says let's rent housing Liverpool, Sydney Australia...
 
We have the same sort of thing in our village, for just two buses a day! But no chairs and plain old white emulsioned concrete. Currently and at every Christmas it houses a nativity scene. In Park Lane, London, your shelter would have been commandeered by the homeless, Pete.

Maurice :cool:
 
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Astonian said:
Hi Lady Penelope
many thanks for coming back to me and telling me of your up bringing and when you mentionioned aunty Ivy was your friends
sister and she is a member i have a feeling whom your are refereing to as she is a member very true
and she as been for a long time and her mother is my mothers cousin whom is or i should say because my mom died
afew years back unfortunely my mom was the only child to this member of the jelfs whom owned those shops on the aston road
and around birmingham and the city centre from the early 1930,s
and the mr jelf was my mothers grand father whom built up the coffe house brigade way back then around birmingham
along with his sons five sons whom all had a couple of kids each but sadly my mother was the only child to this one whom was ernest jelf each one was given a shop then one by one as they died they left to ivy at the end of the day
901 holly lane was actualy listed as Ivydene 901 tyburn road erdington
yes dunlop was a big supporter to grand father coffee shop by the employers and employees when he died
me and your friend whom i have been in contact with in the last 12 months have met up as we are cousins
and exchanged photos and i have given her alot of knowledge regarding the jelfs history on how they obtainained there wealth
and where they came from and going back centrys of there family tree
they had alot of shops around birmingham in the coffee houses and resturuants and a couple of booking shop[s
we was brought up right next to thompsons butchers shop i was that poor little kid whom used to sit and stand at there gates on the pavement from a very early age the men used to stop and talk to me i have photo of thompsons and the gates where i used to sit at
and i went to upper thomas street school as well
yes aunty ivy never got married she came to my grand fathers funeral in 1969 at victoria road aston
best wishes Alan,, Astonian;;;;
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Hello I’m new here so not sure if I’m doing this right. I had an uncle named norman jelf who was always talking about his brother who ran a cafe in aston, not sure of his name.sadly norman passed away many years ago but his wife is still alive and lives in Solihull. Again new here so sorry to butt in..
 
Hi S.Shephard, welcome to the Birmingham History Forum. The original poster Astonian (Alan) died just over a year ago. We understand that he may have been related to the Jelf family who owned a café on the corner of Tyburn Road and Holly Lane.

Perhaps someone else with a great depth of knowledge than mine can help with your enquiry.
 
Morturn said:
Hi S.Shephard, welcome to the Birmingham History Forum. The original poster Astonian (Alan) died just over a year ago. We understand that he may have been related to the Jelf family who owned a café on the corner of Tyburn Road and Holly Lane.

Perhaps someone else with a great depth of knowledge than mine can help with your enquiry.
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Sorry to hear Astonian is no longer with us ( don't get on here as much as I used to !). Feeling that I've lost a very distant friend.
Welcome aboard S Shepherd.
 
sospiri said:
RobT,

The Chine Hotel, Bournemouth (actually in Boscombe) - I used to play there with my trio back around 1969. Amazing that it should me advertised on an Aston Hipp programme.

Maurice :cool:
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Maurice back in Feb 2020 on the Aston Hippodrome thread you wrote:
Interesting to see that Fred Butterworth was the M.D. for that period. Fred had his finger in many pies in Bournemouth and owned the Boscombe Chine Hotel amongst several other enterprises. By the time I played there for a few months in the late 1960s / early 1970s, his son John had taken over. Fred owned a total of 18 theatres throught out the UK, including the local Boscombe Hippodrome, which was more recently being run as a club. Fred died in 1992.

Maurice :cool:
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oldMohawk said:
There is this aerial view dated 1933 of a school in Windsor Street but it is on the corner of Forster Street and your mom would not have had to walk very far if this was the school she went to.
School close up identified from an old map
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A view of the area. I posted this pic in #5399 and it was a link to the 'Then and Now' thread.
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If it is the school maybe someone will have a street level pic of it.
An up-to-date aerial view is in a post link below
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/then-now.44065/post-639941
oldmohawk ...:)
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OMG. I went to Windsor Street Primary School from 1953. The Headmaster was Mr Giles and Miss Soppitt was our Reception teacher.... Sooo lovely. I hope someone sees this thread from those days.
 
Was it this church?

St Jude, Hill Street

Built by the Church Commissioners in 1847, St Jude's served the poorest part of central Birmingham. Part of the district was known as The Rookeries, a colloquialism meaning slum dwellings, the haunt of thieves and crooks.
ahistoryofbirminghamchurches.jimdofree.com ahistoryofbirminghamchurches.jimdofree.com
 
A Sparks said:
Was it this church?

St Jude, Hill Street

Built by the Church Commissioners in 1847, St Jude's served the poorest part of central Birmingham. Part of the district was known as The Rookeries, a colloquialism meaning slum dwellings, the haunt of thieves and crooks.
ahistoryofbirminghamchurches.jimdofree.com ahistoryofbirminghamchurches.jimdofree.com
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Thank you for the info on St Judes Church. I think I remember it. Thank you too for pointing me to A History of Churches. I do not do Facebook, so this is something else for me to enjoy. Kind regards, Sue
 
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