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OLD AND NEW PHOTOGRAPHS

Tinpot said:
I only remember entering the market from the Bull Ring but that was after 1950. Was there an entrance at both ends of the market originally?
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Both those photos are from the Worcester St end. However the second one is post the bombing, as can be seen from there being no roof. . However some photos show that end wall missing (below), so at some time it must have been demolished before the eventual destruction of the building. Does anyone know when?

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SteveBhx said:
Roll 48 is the last of the current " processed images" I will have to go and crop and tidy a few more rolls but may process then post so there is not such a long wait - but don't worry we are not running out at a rough count there are another 70 rolls to process!! ( but expect a lot of duplicates and rubbish)
Talking of which half of Roll 48 is taken up with images like this, a page in an album propped up and a picture taken. These are all duplicated and have been posted and fortunately better and more cropped images were taken . Not sure why they were taken as later on this roll were picture from 1991 so why go back and retake images you have already done?

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Steve, thank you for all the time you spend preparing these photos for the Forum. I love looking at them, and really appreciate the effort you make.
 
SteveBhx said:
Next we move to Roll 10 - this is another roll with a shortage of images - the first half are photos from a calendar that has had pictures cut out - not very good the first real image is the corner of Adderley Street and Ash road and we have the Adderley Park pub, white brick building pretty original in layout although looking rather run down today but with many feature remaining

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There's a tunnel from that pub, that goes under the road, across to my Aunty's house, No. 6 Ash Road, (No. 6 was knocked down to build a mosque). We were never allowed in the cellar as kids, but, we did one day sneak down there and found the locked entrance to the pub, a door with frosted glass engraved with a pub sign and on the floor a Johnny Walker statue, which was a bit ironic as my Aunty ran The Tempreance Society.
 
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Well that took a while but I have now finished some more rolls, actually it didn't take long but you know how it is when you put something down and don't pick it straight back up - suddenly 3 months have gone by.
To start we have the second half of roll 48 , not sure of the source of this image but the list says it is the Old Bull Ring in 1932 - perhaps a line drawing over a picture? The sky line also looks quite modern with the taller white buildings.

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Next up we have High Street Digbeth taken in 1930's, love chaos of Trams, trolley busses and other vehicles and if you look carefully you can see a cyclist crossing them all !!.

I have noticed that the building on the left has " SPQR" on the front - only recently having watch a Henry Coles program did I know it meant Small Profit Quick Return, but now I know it has much old origins.

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We now jump forward 40 years to the Wesleyan and General Building on Colmore Circus taken in December 1974. Long gone and replace with a much larger building, apologies for the quality - seemed to be a lot sharper when I looked at it - few things to comment on notice the car park in front of the back of the building imagine getting in and out of the car parking in that location. To the left is the Gaumont - and a bridge link between the two - is that right or am I looking at the view wrong?
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SteveBhx said:
Next up we have High Street Digbeth taken in 1930's, love chaos of Trams, trolley busses and other vehicles and if you look carefully you can see a cyclist crossing them all !!.

I have noticed that the building on the left has " SPQR" on the front - only recently having watch a Henry Coles program did I know it meant Small Profit Quick Return, but now I know it has much old origins.

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Here is a better reproduction dated 1934

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We now jump back to June 1959, and Steelhouse Lane - I have posted a similar image from this location but not the same I don't think - someone will tell me.
On the left hand corner we have Harrisons Opticians, with a massive sign in the middle of the building, and above that seems to be a large neon sign for Lambs Navy Rum. Again not too sharp - another picture of a picture then scanned off a negative. We can make out Society on the top of the building and a number of shops with blinds down - when was the last time you saw that let alone in the city Centre!
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Continuing the time travel we are now back in October 1949, George Fisher Hairdresser, who is on the corner of Great Hampton Row and New John Street West, note the Permanant Waving and specialist in Manicure and Chiropody - for Ladies and Gents of course.
Note the two children standing outside the entrance too
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Moving forward in time we have H. Knight pork butcher Ham and Bacon curer and Lard refiner - you don't see that these days. This is looking up Great Hampton Row from Tower Street taken in August 1961 with a selection of two and three storey buildings a lot have large entrance gates so I assume they are industrial / works . On the Butchers wall is an OMO sign which was launched in 1954
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Continuing on Roll 48 we have what is described as old shops and houses Great Hampton Row and St Georges Place Hockley. Now we have a better image there is so much more to see, firstly the Gold Flake painted sign, then the projecting sign next door. Note also the goods on the pavement as well as on the road with the trolly there too.
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With a better image - although also available in the Great Hampton Row thread, we can now see that Woods and Potter are the newsagents , all the sweet jars in the window next door and the shop owner looking out - are they checking on us or the child? These are numbers 77 - 78 . Both of these were taken in 1961.

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With a jump of 30 years we are now in 1991, and a view down Long Acre - it seems most of these picture from the 1990's were taken on a Sunday hence the lack of traffic. We have the Swan and Mitre off in the distance , railway terrace is the road to the right and not surprisingly the bridge crosses the railway line !!

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This fine image is of the Great Western Goods Office in Pitsford Street, as can be seen the end wall is been reduced and I am afraid it disappeared altogether. The rail bridge to the right was also replaced with a wider modern structure to allow the four lanes of traffic. What a shame - it could have become any number of alterative uses and would have been there today - Google Travel Lodg Burton and have a view of the Midland Railway Grain Store to see what it could have become.

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Final picture on this roll and one that shows the affect of the Middle ring road - it was taken looking down Pitsford Street , at the bottom of the slope is a two lane road with the Goods building on the other side, this has now all been replaced with four lanes of traffic and a central reservation with the look of a race circuit judging by the speed the traffic goes on the roads.
It has an almost sleepy look - a Sunday picture - no cars and a time less image on the right of railway buildings - unfortunately nothing on the right remains all replaced with modern buildings

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One of the issues with going through the rolls of film consecutively is there may be a better version of a photo later on - this has proved the case with the images posted from Roll 48 as Lyn pointed out. I have just moved to Roll 51 and come across better versions of these images which I will replace once, done I will post some new photos .
 
Back to Roll 51, firstly corner of Lee Bank and Elvetham Street apparently some of the last buildings to be demolished in the area in the 1970's, taken in November 1966. selection of three storey buildings, I like how the pavement is raised up above the road with its rails to stop the unwary
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This image has lots of history in it - plenty that you would not get these days, this is Dawsons The Ironmongers, again taken in 1966 a traditional corner establishment - with everything you need, windows full of products - some of it outside, see the Esso Blue sign on the wall and the painted Locksmith sign . Interesting how the property next door is three storey, note the garden gate, however the rest of the road is two storey buildings. see also the lone person standing at the bus stop - been there done that
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Remember the pork butcher H Knight a few images ago - to the right of that shot is a line of buildings - this is Albion Works, Great Hampton Street, like the way the banding goes across the front of all the buildings, leaving no doubt about where and what they do there. Fantastic brick built works - iron framed windows with the small square panes

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This image is listed as bottom of Lee Bank but then says believed to be Lodge Road - does that make sense? Some of the last building left when redevelopment came to the area - love the layout of the buildings and if you look carefully they are all different nearest has two little windows, two front doors then three windows going up , next has one window two doors and three windows, and similar differences all down the road - take a look. Note also the Swan Vesta advert and the lamppost with the sign on it.

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SteveBhx said:
With a jump of 30 years we are now in 1991, and a view down Long Acre - it seems most of these picture from the 1990's were taken on a Sunday hence the lack of traffic. We have the Swan and Mitre off in the distance , railway terrace is the road to the right and not surprisingly the bridge crosses the railway line !!

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both the swan and the mitre demolished...the mitre demolished this year..fast running out of pubs now

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There's this link to a photo but I'm not sure that it's the same one.

Birmingham – Nechells Baths | Baths and Wash Houses Historical Archive

The following is taken directly from The City of Birmingham Baths Department 1851 – 1951. The work was written and compiled by J. Moth M.N.A.B.S Birmingham 1951 and is presented here. In 1900, pressure was brought to bear on the Council by the representatives of the Nechells Ward for the...
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brummy-lad said:
There's this link to a photo but I'm not sure that it's the same one.

Birmingham – Nechells Baths | Baths and Wash Houses Historical Archive

The following is taken directly from The City of Birmingham Baths Department 1851 – 1951. The work was written and compiled by J. Moth M.N.A.B.S Birmingham 1951 and is presented here. In 1900, pressure was brought to bear on the Council by the representatives of the Nechells Ward for the...
www.bathsandwashhouses.co.uk
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Thank you, that's better. It's much older but from about the same angle.
 
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