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OLD AND NEW PHOTOGRAPHS

SteveBhx said:
Only a few pictures tonight to finish of the roll, first we have Queen Adelaide corner of Summer Street and Hospital Street, my information says "gone before 1928" so I am not sure what this image is or how old it is or even if this is correct? any suggestion?

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steve just to confirm it is the queen adelaide pub which as this map shows was on the corner of hospital st/new summer st...bit blurry but i can make out it does say queen adelaid pub on the map..

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We now move to Roll 7 - if you are counting you may have worked out that the last roll had less than 36 exposures on it, basically the majority were rubbish images which were retaken and of better quality on Roll .
I am also not 100% sure on the accuracy of the photo details - I am sure you will correct me

First we have what is titled the Bear Pub warwick Road before 1930 - and so many mis directions here, sign above the window says Michell and Butler, however the sign in the window says Davenports, on the corner is a sign saying " Corner Shop " above that is one saying Empire Wine and Mineral Stores and to the right it says G Standley - free to retail. Property number says 690 I assume Warwick Road, to the left is B.M. Pettyfer fancy goods and left again is a fine sweet shop / tobacconist - with so many tobacco signs !!

EDIT: Thanks to everyone who pointed out this should have been Stratford Road

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Next we have The Bear , Warwick Road taken after 1930, fine brick building with a sign showing the "Warwick bear", patterned brickwork around the roofline - leaded windows and brick window surrounds. Note also the fine lamps on the right ,
On the extreme left you can just make out the edge of the building from the previous picture raised roof tops - chimney pots and the edge of the curved window top.

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Next we have another selection of old and new shots of the same site - first is the Old Dolphin Warwick Road, which has a selction of style pushed together- we have the central pub, but to the left is square building with window and door - to the right is a small addition pushed into the corner with the rest of the building running to the right. Large lamp and a selection of pub signs.

EDIT: Thanks to Janice who pointed out the road should have been Warwick Lane.

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SteveBhx said:
We now move to Roll 7 - if you are counting you may have worked out that the last roll had less than 36 exposures on it, basically the majority were rubbish images which were retaken and of better quality on Roll .
I am also not 100% sure on the accuracy of the photo details - I am sure you will correct me

First we have what is titled the Bear Pub warwick Road before 1930 - and so many mis directions here, sign above the window says Michell and Butler, however the sign in the window says Davenports, on the corner is a sign saying " Corner Shop " above that is one saying Empire Wine and Mineral Stores and to the right it says G Standley - free to retail. Property number says 690 I assume Warwick Road, to the left is B.M. Pettyfer fancy goods and left again is a fine sweet shop / tobacconist - with so many tobacco signs !!

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690 Stratford Road was occupied by George Standley in 1932. Two doors away at 186 was Mrs Ada Haddleton, tobacconist
 
SteveBhx: Many thanks for the old photos of the Bear pub (opened c1937), and previous occupants, on the corner of Stratford Road and Thornhill Road in Sparkhill .... I hadn't seen them before. I was born and brought up in Thornhill Road, and the spot outside those corner pub doors was our regular "penny for the guy" pitch in the run-up to bonfire night in the early 1960s. It was a great location because all the men had to pass us to get to/from the gents toilet (far door on the right of the photo). We'd spend the proceeds on fireworks from Boddington's the newsagents on the bottom corner of Thornhill Road, and get lots of material for our garden bonfire from Levin's furniture/carpet shop opposite the Bear at the top of Thornhill Road. Everything a boy needed for a great bonfire night!
 
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SteveBhx said:
Finally we have two for the price of one with the two previous sites showing on one image - old on the left with the new nearest to us, very large site - I wonder how long the " Old " Dolphin lasted

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According to this post
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Post in thread 'The Dolphin Acocks Green.'

Robert, here is a couple of postcards of the Dolphin 1900c on the Corner of Warwick Lane and Green Lane ( Dolphin Lane) the pub was demolished in 1930 and the "New" Dolphin was built a bit further back and one time mayoress of Birmingham Freda Cocks was a licensee in the 1970's
The pub was demolished in 1991 and a supermarket put on the site
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Wow - well that was a poor post how many road names can you get wrong !! I have two excuses, a) I was following the list and b) I am from the north of the city so these mean nothing to me - apologies from those of you from the south.
Can I also thankyou for noticing these errors and the additional information.
 
SteveBhx said:
Wow - well that was a poor post how many road names can you get wrong !! I have two excuses, a) I was following the list and b) I am from the north of the city so these mean nothing to me - apologies from those of you from the south.
Can I also thankyou for noticing these errors and the additional information.
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no need to apologise steve...we cant know evey inch of birmingham...

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Well after the last posts it is with some trepidation that I every post again !!

The first image is of the old site of The Greet Warwick Road - I have a poor version of this which has " The Olde Manor Farm " written across the bottom - looking like this is in the middle of no where, I assume these details are correct. Lots of old style buildings and even a wooden gate.

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The next image has been on the forum some years ago and was taken from a book - this seems to be an original or at least a photo of an original. Full of interest I have it as the site of the Redhill Tavern old building a shop with various adverts from Lyons Tea to Sunlight soap as well as an advert for a film with Harold Lloyd.
EDIT: From Pedrocut - The film was shown in January 1925 at the Futurist.
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Following on in the old and new theme - this one is slightly different - in the previous photo on the left hand side there is a distinctive house and moving right in the background a clock tower - we have the now cleared site with the same house in the background and the tower still there. I am afraid there is no year for when these images were taken.
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January 1925 at the Futurist. Girl Shy with Harold Lloyd.
SteveBhx said:
The next image has been on the forum some years ago and was taken from a book - this seems to be an original or at least a photo of an original. Full of interest I have it as the site of the Redhill Tavern old building a shop with various adverts from Lyons Tea to Sunlight soap as well as an advert for a film with Harold Lloyd.

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We now move forward to the later version of the Peacock, now a whole different layout - with small M & B plaques , ornate entrance smaller lamps and a small balcony above the entrance too. moving forward to the modern day Streetview has this build still there ( greater minds than me may be able to create an image) and the Peacock plaque under the eaves is still there - also if you go back in the timeline to 2011 you can see the pub just after it closed with name sign and two small lamps outside the entrance

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