OLD AND NEW PHOTOGRAPHS

[SteveBhx]

I will do the next two picture out of sequence on how they were taken - it will not matter but the first picture will / might give some idea where the second picture is.
So this is the Indoor Arena or whatever it is called currently, as we can see in its early stages and surrounded by wasteland - which when you consider what is there now is amazing.
I love what I assume is the caravan used by security, although what it could do with the size of the site I don't know. Looking at the dates of the other pictures on the roll this was taken in mid 1990.

 

[Astoness]

Further toward Hockley Brook we have Pelican Works on the corner with Hockley Street, always remember looking out for the Pelican when on the bus home from "town". Looking down on a number of adverts and always seemed a bit worse for wear. Nicely proportioned building with all the windows topped with curved stonework and a stone fretwork around the roofline too.

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the pelican is still there steve...would not like that to fall on my head

lyn

 

[SteveBhx]

so now you know where we are any ideas where this is in relation to the previous shot? Above the white wall are a couple of distinctive buildings , and if you follow the wall to the right you can just make out a couple of tunnel portals, I am thinking St. Vincent Street although as there is nothing remotely historic there now it is hard to tell.

 

[Dionysius//88]

Next we are still in Great Hampton Street and we have the Lord Clifton, not sure of the history of this place, but a quick search on this forum and it seems most of you have been in there !! Single storey with a couple of lamps by the entrance , like the Rover and note the man top left putting up the advert on the wall

 

[SteveBhx]

Steve it's Lord Clifden had a few pints in here at 5.30pm on the way home

I know - wouldn't be so bad but its spread across the front of the building !! - will be edited shortly - feel free to delete your post if you wish

 

[Donbogen]

the pelican is still there steve...would not like that to fall on my head

lyn

you answered my next question

 

[Dionysius//88]

I know - wouldn't be so bad but its spread across the front of the building !! - will be edited shortly - feel free to delete your post if you wish

Will do

 

[SteveBhx]

Another one to work on - all the features are there its just putting it into modern context, from the left - blocks of flats , Post Office Tower, ICC, and the Hyatt extreme right. there is nothing in the foreground apart from grass and broken paving and the road we are standing on and the one crossing it .

 

[Dionysius//88]

Another one to work on - all the features are there its just putting it into modern context, from the left - blocks of flats , Post Office Tower, ICC, and the Hyatt extreme right. there is nothing in the foreground apart from grass and broken paving and the road we are standing on and the one crossing it .

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Steve looking at the angle I'd think this is from King Edwards Rd , I used to live in Cambridge Tower which is the first block of those flats in the distance

 

[SteveBhx]

Still trying to piece the locations together but I think we are getting there - so from the previous picture we have moved to the right and paralell with Broad Street , ICC is on the left, the Hyatt Hotel is now in the middle - so is that Oozells Street School in the middle and we are standing in Brindley Place?

 

[SteveBhx]

and finally we have turned all the way round and are looking up to Five Ways, is that the Crescent Theatre ? I will let you fill in the gaps

 

[Dionysius//88]

Still trying to piece the locations together but I think we are getting there - so from the previous picture we have moved to the right and paralell with Broad Street , ICC is on the left, the Hyatt Hotel is now in the middle - so is that Oozells Street School in the middle and we are standing in Brin

Last one for tonight - stepping back from the previous location we have the public conveniences under the trees - I always thought this was a strange site - inner city but with almost a village green look tree on a triangle of land but then with the toilets. Interestingly later it became a fast food shop !!

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The toilets part way down Icknield St and Warstone Lane sharp left

 

[A Sparks]

As soon as i saw this i flashed back to seeing it from the upstairs of bus

Me too!
That was my bus route into Town, the number 16, must have passed the Pelican hundreds of times!

 

[Dionysius//88]

Now we have an actual date for a photo, this is the 7th August 1989 ( day after my birthday), I have this as Northwood Street and Livery Street, fine old building with an interesting curved frontage


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Standing with my then girlfriend on Frederick St a post office van went past us back doors wide open and banging with the movement . An enevelope came toward us addressed to this company we opened the envelope and there was a cheque inside . The girlfriend dropped it into them and I got a free pewter tankard off them for returning their post

 

[Dionysius//88]

Again this is apparently Livery Street but I am not sure where as there are buildings both sides of the road, is up hill with a bend at the end, is it a road off Livery Street?
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I would say this looks like another view of Northwood St looking up to Hockley Hill direction

 

[Dionysius//88]

if anyone can add some more detail to the view ? We know its Holliday street though !
I have one of those oil fired road lamps not sure how though
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The only company I know that had a showroom in Holliday St Steve was Rowe Bros they used to make porcelain sinks etc this is back in the 60's their main shwroom was in Berkeley St

 

[Donbogen]

Me too!
That was my bus route into Town, the number 16, must have passed the Pelican hundreds of times!

No 90 bus

 

[Dionysius//88]

steve i seem to remember there was a depot in holiday st run by the council but i dont know what sort of depot...there again i could be completely wrong

lyn

Lyn You are right that was further on down Holliday Street looking out of the gate turn right for the corporation as we used to call them

 

[Dionysius//88]

Finally a view out the gates love the gates the lamps on the posts and is that a ghost sign opposite?
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Berkeley Street facing us

 

[Dionysius//88]

the next few picture will be an eye opener for Dionysius//88 as they show the peace garden and church and former colonnade from Broad Street, my sheet offers a date of 1988/89 for the move of the Colonnade. First we have St. Thomas's church.
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[Dionysius//88]

and finally looking the other way and the demolition work seems to have started properly this end, again no traffic, imagine that today, Ladywood Middleway infront with Five ways off in the distance.

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And with The Squirrel public house behind the bus shelter with white roof I think Steve .

 

[Dionysius//88]

Finally on this roll are two shot labeled Broad Street / Sheepcote Street as this area is now almost unrecognisable I can only agree but the actual position of the photographs I am unsure of but we have the blocks of flats and the PO Tower for reference.

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Steve Broad St is on the other side of the building centre of the photograph , Sheepcote St further up Broad St to the right of the picture . I would guess this would be King Edwards Rd again or Kingston Row

 

[Dionysius//88]

Next we move along Monument Road to the Baths , love the symmetry of building and the style of the windows. Taken in 1967

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Many a packet of Cheesettes and a cup of hot chocoate after a swim knocked back here as a kid

 

[Eric Gibson]

I must have been away too long I recognise hardly any of the places photographed.

 

[Astoness]

I must have been away too long I recognise hardly any of the places photographed.

hi eric..i have not been away but birmingham looks like another city to me

lyn

 

[Mark Tooze]

hi eric..i have not been away but birmingham looks like another city to me

lyn

I drove one of my daughters to a Xmas party in the city centre a few weeks ago. After the satnav took us up a dead end (roadworks) by Baskerville House, I told her "I know exactly where we want to go, but have not got the faintest idea of how to get us there"..... If you go that way I recommend a canary or a pigeon or something similar to point the way.......

 

[joeandsheila]

Yes Steve, Telfers best individual steak and kidnety pies bar none

My mom would only buy Telfers pies......bought from Butchers in Gooch Street, Balsall Heath.....We lived in Vaughton Street South.....My mom 'n' Dad moved to Yardley in 1969/1970 xx

 

[Dionysius//88]

My mom would only buy Telfers pies......bought from Butchers in Gooch Street, Balsall Heath.....We lived in Vaughton Street South.....My mom 'n' Dad moved to Yardley in 1969/1970 xx

Yes she had a very good taste , I puchased them from a chip shop in the street I lived and later as a teenager the trailer outside Snow Hill Station on a Friday night after the Locarno

 

[Dionysius//88]

hi eric..i have not been away but birmingham looks like another city to me

lyn

I'd back you there 100% Lynn

 

[SteveBhx]

The description for the next set of buildings is equally vague - In and around the Fox Hurst Street. so to start we have something recognizable - Australian Bar corner of Hurst Street and Bromsgove Street. Fantastic two/ 3 storey brick built corner property - two distinctive styles of building here, to the left we have a standard three storey building but on the corner we have a massive window above ground floor. Still there as the Missing Bar and all feature retained.