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Iommi family

Suzanneiom said:
sorry I missed that, just catching up...ill check it out now.
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Is this Nechells? :) How amazing would it be , as the house is still standing if there’s still stuff up in the loft. That’s always been my dream, that I managed to come across belongings. :)
Far fetched I know. But great least there’s one house so far still here :)
 
Suzanneiom said:
Is this Nechells? :) How amazing would it be , as the house is still standing if there’s still stuff up in the loft. That’s always been my dream, that I managed to come across belongings. :)
Far fetched I know. But great least there’s one house so far still here :)
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its in bordesley green off bordesley green road

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Just trying to complete the evidence for post #464 from MWS
1901 census - Elizabeth states she is married not a widow as on 1911. Still no idea what happened to Luciano or Alfred Foster
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I think they moved to Ronald Road when they got married as prior to 1914 Frank ( Elizabeth would not have a vote then)is not listed on werolls
1914 - 1015 eroll
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1939 eroll (last until 1945)
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from 1945 there seem to be no-one listed at 37 to 47 inclusive
 
Suzanneiom said:
View suzanne's family tree on Ancestry.


ill leave this up for a while and delete it, I only plan to make my tree public when im no longer here.
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I think you may have a couple of errors.

The one quite far back - Mary Baker who I think was born 1794 in Aymestrey, Herefordshire the daughter of a William and Mary Baker and who died 1851 in Ludlow. Also I think her husband, William Russell, probably died 1865 in Ludlow.

The other was the year of birth of Joseph Lambe, son of Joseph & Nora, which appears to be 1934 not 1931.
 
MWS said:
I think you may have a couple of errors.

The one quite far back - Mary Baker who I think was born 1794 in Aymestrey, Herefordshire the daughter of a William and Mary Baker and who died 1851 in Ludlow. Also I think her husband, William Russell, probably died 1865 in Ludlow.

The other was the year of birth of Joseph Lambe, son of Joseph & Nora, which appears to be 1934 not 1931.
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I welcome you to change them if you don't mind.
 
Re : Thomas Smith's occupation given on Elizabeth's marriage (post #493) and the 1901 census (post #515). First word is coal but can't make out the second word. It looks to be the same word but doesn't seem to be hewer or haulier.

Probably something obvious but just can't get it.
 
Yes sorry, getting my names mixed up again.

Yes, coal hewers are usually down the mines. My nan's family were coal hewers in Chesterfield. So, wasn't sure.
 
What are your thoughts on this, so within feet of where I am locating Giuseppe & Marias burial location, Ive found a wide concrete area, just under some soil and grass. Which would be strange in the middle of where people are being buried as you often want just soil so its easy to dig up first. So I checked with chatGPT and it said as Giusppes grave was private, that would of been purchased for family only, 75+ years and it wasn't uncommon after all relatives were in that they closed it with cement/concrete. These types of graves usually had a headstone too, but that I cannot find yet..
Also found a leg bone sticking out one of the graves. Its a shame how neglected this cemetery has gotten.
 
I'd guess a lot of churchyards are not kept as neat and tidy as they should and St Joseph's is probably not an easy one to maintain.

It's hard to advise without seeing it. You're confident you have the right plot and are just trying to find a headstone?

I said previously it just might not exist any longer sadly and if it was me I wouldn't want to be digging up any more bones.
 
MWS said:
I'd guess a lot of churchyards are not kept as neat and tidy as they should and St Joseph's is probably not an easy one to maintain.

It's hard to advise without seeing it. You're confident you have the right plot and are just trying to find a headstone?

I said previously it just might not exist any longer sadly and if it was me I wouldn't want to be digging up any more bones.
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Yea I’d say I’m 90% sure that’s the location. But wanted alittle more solid proof. But tomorrow will be the last attempt to see if there’s any stone that’s sunk, fell ect… and then we will leave it there. Atleast I know the area they’re all located and they’re together atleast.
 
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Suzanne - if there is a human bone sticking out then I think it needs reporting. Even if only to the Priest. I have read that this happens sometimes and such bones are collected into an ossary which is then buried properly.
They need to be treated with respect.
 
pjmburns said:
Suzanne - if there is a human bone sticking out then I think it needs reporting. Even if only to the Priest. I have read that this happens sometimes and such bones are collected into an ossary which is then buried properly.
They need to be treated with respect.
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Yes me and my dad reported it as soon as we spotted it :)
 
I've been looking at Elizabeth Smith's sister Jane and there are a couple of interesting things.

Firstly her husband was Henry Vereca but his name was originally Verrechia (a much well known Italian name) which shows how names and especially foreign names can change though the pronunciation probably remains pretty much the same. He was also an ice cream vendor.

On one of Henry and Jane's children's baptism, Alexandra is listed as (is it?) godmother.

And on the 1901 & 1911 censuses Jane is listed with her 'mother' Phoebe but on her marriage she lists her mother's name as Mary Ann. (Elizabeth lists her mother on her marriage as Elizabeth).

This doesn't contradict what I suspect about Elizabeth because I think her father was listed as a widower in 1881. So, theoretically, he could have re-married, had Jane, was widowed again and then re-married to Phoebe. Nothing is certain with Smith though.
 
I’ll catch up with this post properly when I’m home! But yes I also know that Italian surname , I’ve come across it loads while doing research.
 
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