MWS
from Bham
Hopefully this links to an old map overlaying a modern one. Change transparency (bottom left) to compare...
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Suzanneiom
master brummie
Right I’m over this way now, I’m guessing those row of shops have been knocked down , is it where the aldi and farm foods is now? If anyone is from north Birmingham you may know.
no you need to go further up the high st but stay on the same side as adi..you may find this map useful...if you look at it on the corner of whitehead street it say PH (this was the scotch house pub) no 81 was 3 down from the pub..there is a blue dot at the bottom left just move this to the left and the map will fade out to show you what is there now....as you can see the spot where no 81 was is now taken up by the duel carriageway so you wont be able to actually stand on the old ground of no 81 unless you want to get run over
there is absolutely nothing left of the old newtown row or high st except for the bartons arms pub... hope this helps...oh nearly forgot have you seen our high street aston thread as it has some old photos on it ?lyn
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MWS
from Bham
Bartons Arms is about the only building still remaining. Roads have changed, High St has been widened and the row of buildings containing no. 81 would have been where the northbound carriageway is.
It doesn't have the exact alignment but St Stephen's close is where Whitehead St was.
It doesn't have the exact alignment but St Stephen's close is where Whitehead St was.
Suzanneiom
master brummie
Ahhh now that you’ve both said that I know exactly where it is and what stretch of carriageway it’s on…. I’ve always lived south Birmingham so I have no idea what’s new/old this side.
well i was born and raised around there suzanne and i dont recognise the area now..so many changes...just had another look at that map i posted for you and when you fade the map out keep one eye on where no 81 was and you will see it stood on the grass thats in the middle of the duel carriageway...at least this gives you a good idea
lyn
Suzanneiom
master brummie
Im on the laptop now so I will check out the map. It seems so far that every single address ive come across is no longer there, its a shame isn't it. But saying that the city centre has changed so much to now. I miss the old palisades and pavilions, Ill check out the other Aston post you mentioned too. thanks
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sadly suzanne this is the problem most of us have...a reason why i have spent the past 15 years finding and posting thousands of old black and white photos of streets/roads no longer there...if you use our search box you maybe surprised at what you can find...Im on the laptop now so I will check out the map. It seems so far that every single address ive come across is no longer there, its a shame isn't it. But saying that the city centre has changed so much to now. I miss the old palisades and pavilions, Ill check out the other Aston post you mentioned too. thanks
lyn
Suzanneiom
master brummie
Ill have a look now, I love looking through old photos. There are a few good videos on YouTube of the city centre back in the day, but you may have seen them already.
yes i have seen many old videos which are fantastic and gives us a little glimpse of how things were back in the day...
lyn
MWS
from Bham
Im on the laptop now so I will check out the map. It seems so far that every single address ive come across is no longer there, its a shame isn't it. But saying that the city centre has changed so much to now. I miss the old palisades and pavilions, Ill check out the other Aston post you mentioned too. thanks
The further you go back the greater the likelihood of that being the case, especially in the poorer parts of cities and towns. People bemoan the changes but I can't imagine anyone willing to change their house now for a back to back with an outside toilet that their great grandparents etc may have lived.
MWS
from Bham
A little bit of a guess (from your maternal side, Lambe?) ignore if wrong, but here are a couple of houses still standing (neither Bham). First one was occupied in 1939 (no.13) and the second in 1911 (no. 3), though depends if you think it's that one is that old...
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Suzanneiom
master brummie
Suzanneiom
master brummie
Hmmmm you know, I don't know much about my moms, dads side other than he was born in tipperary in Ireland, I do have some of his relatives on my tree, but that's all I know. The last time I went over was in 1998. I would like to delve deeper at some point. Ill have a look at those linksA little bit of a guess (from your maternal side, Lambe?) ignore if wrong, but here are a couple of houses still standing (neither Bham). First one was occupied in 1939 (no.13) and the second in 1911 (no. 3), though depends if you think it's that one is that old...
Suzanneiom
master brummie
Just spoke to my mom, she is unsure what address my grandad lived at before he came here, but his two brothers lived a road apart, one being at 2 treacy villas the green, cashel, tipperary. They lived there all their lives really. Not sure about the other Lambes at the other addresses. I wouldn't have thought its a popular surname either.
MWS
from Bham
Tracking Irish relatives can be tricky, there just aren't as many records available. Making the jump from English born descendants to 1911 Ireland is not always possible, as I found with 2 brothers in law's ancestors.
And think I may have jumped the gun a little with only circumstantial evidence unfortunately. Sorry.
And think I may have jumped the gun a little with only circumstantial evidence unfortunately. Sorry.
Suzanneiom
master brummie
No worries at all….I certainly seem to have taken a wrong step with your Lambe ancestors, so those houses have no relevance.
A fairly unusual name, a couple of coincidences and you're tracing the wrong person.
Maybe one day I’ll pick it up. But for now I just do my dads side as I find it confusing
MWS
from Bham
Lambe is probably one of those names that is probably recorded as Lamb as often as it is Lambe.
Took another shot at your Lambe ancestors and pretty sure I got the right ones this time as eventually the Treacy Villas address appeared on a record.
Suzanneiom
master brummie
yes that's the one, the women that lives there now is a Lambe but she got married so im unsure of that surname. She bought off her uncle, my great uncle when he passed.
Tbh Id like to do my moms nans side, as I know nothing about them, but the name Rogers is very common. But she didn't like to speak about any of them.
Im back at st Josephs tomorrow, everyone should be back off holiday so I can get this map ive been waiting for.
Suzanneiom
master brummie
The best place to look for photos of ancestors, would you say it would be the library in town?
doubt you will find any of your ancestors photos at the library unless they are famous..looking on the ancestry trees may be better..
lyn
MWS
from Bham
Rogers isn't great but it could be worse, it could be Smith (my nan), Davies or Jones.
Edna Rogers 1931 - 2015?
Suzanneiom
master brummie
ohh silly me
I thought maybe news articles, shop openings , may take photos etc.Yes, her father was William rogers and mom Florence, I know she had siblings, may have been half siblings, but she just would never speak about any of them.
Haha you definitely win with smith
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pjmburns
master brummie
News articles, shop openings etc are more likely to be found in
www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
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MWS
from Bham
Yes, her father was William rogers and mom Florence, I know she had siblings, may have been half siblings, but she just would never speak about any of them.
Haha you definitely win with smith
Families are strange and there are always rumours about people falling out.
There are 6 other Rogers/Cooper (Florence's maiden name) birth registrations apart from Edna - Elizabeth, Evelyn, John, Florence, Frederick & Vera. The middle 4 were definitely siblings and I suspect the other 2 were as well though Elizabeth may have died young. Edna was the youngest.
Suzanneiom
master brummie
Thankyou iil look now.
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Oh so she had many siblings
nice to see all their names, I never knew the maiden name, My mom tells me the only one she met is Fredrick. So you're on the right track. But my mom is sure some are definitely half siblings.Saying this I think she was a lot younger (my nan) so didn't know some of them well.
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Suzanneiom
master brummie
Just checked my ancestry DNA matches and I have about 15 Rogers that are 3rd 4th cousins, so they could be down the line of the two brothers.