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Canals of Birmingham

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li can be seen from the link that the Worcs & B/Ham canal is 30 miles in length. The first set of locks from Worcester Bar (Gas Street) is at Tardebigge. However I would think that there were stanking facilities (stop planks) at Westhill tunnel and maybe Kings Norton where the Stratford Canal joined. This would limit the flooding a little one hoped. I believe it took almost six weeks to get the cut open again.
Not sure about how any homes and the factory fared however. Someone might know. :friendly_wink:

https://www.jim-shead.com/waterways/canal.php?wpage=W-B

See post 589 above re. stop gates. During WW2, to minimise the risk of flooding, stop gates at the ends of aqueducts and embankments were closed whenever the air raid warning was sounded. On the night of 3 December 1940, the stop gates at each end of the Bournville embankment were indeed closed when the bomb fell at around 2200 hours, so the flooding damage was considerably mitigated by this precaution. Nonetheless, it took several weeks to clear the debris, rebuild the aqueduct and retaining walls and to repuddle the canal bed with clay brought by canal from Alvechurch Brick Works.
 
Good to read your post Speedy. I thought the stop blocks would be a paramount feature to protect the canal its and surroundings but having no definite facts I made only an oblique reference to them.
Canal followers will also know of the serious breach on the 'Tivvy' in east Devon recently. Now back in good order and nature and wildlife enjoying it all again. :friendly_wink:
 
Re: Canals of Brum

A good thread for anyone who has canal workers in their family tree. I've been reading the Birmingham Post listings and it's fascinating!
What a hard life (and hard drinking) time they had.
It goes on a bit, but bookmark it and dip in and out.

www.spellweaver-online.co.uk
 
Not everyone connected with the 'cut' worked the boats. Some, particularly the No.1's, who owned boats, lived on the 'bank'. Not all frequented pubs or were heavy drinkers. I was reliably told that my grandfather, a No. 1, was teetotal.

There were some noteworthy folks who' lived on the bank' such as Sister Mary Ward. She gave her life to giving help and mediacl aid the the boat people. She was based at Stoke Bruerne which is on the Grand Union (Birmingham and Leicester to London) canal.

https://canalrivertrust.org.uk/news...en-of-the-canals/sister-mary-of-stoke-bruerne

Maybe because Birmingham has large hospitals - the General and Childrens' come to mind - there was no counterpart of Mary in the Birmingham area. But maybe there was? It just was not well reported. I am sure there are many other facets and real life people of the Midland canal system that is worthy, if known, of Forum mention. The subject probably isn't that glamourous today just the romantic nostalgia aspects.

Very many boatmen and their families were buried in churchyards along the length of all our canals - this often presents difficulties in searches for those with family connections with the 'cut'.
 
Although boatmen and their families lived a nomadic life, I am told that there was always somewhere that they called "home". There were rules on the canal as to who had priority but absolute priority was alway given to a boatman "going home" ie making his last journey. His boat would be spruced up and his coffin laid on it and it would be worked back "fly" with boatmen going ahead to set the locks and to warn other boats to give way.
 
While we don't current have a canal museum, we do have information signs along the canals like this one on the Birmingham & Fazeley Canal

 
I went to the Gloucester Waterways Museum at the Gloucester Docks at the weekend. It's something like what Birmingham needs! Opened in 1988 as the National Waterways Museum - Llanthony Warehouse.



I've got interior pics of some items, but not uploaded them yet (to my Flickr).

Well worth a visit, although they charge £5 for adults to enter the museum (3 levels). I almost got lost, went up the stairs, most doors locked!

So went back to the ground floor, then up the lift to "Level 3". Then went down (Level 1 is on the ground floor behind the gift shop).
 
Just read the whole thread fascinating. My daughter has just bought e apartments on Gloucester Docks and worked for a while as a volunteer in the British Waterways museum, because of the number of narrow boats moored around the dock area and what she saw in the museum, she and her husband booked a narrowboat in 2013 and with my wife the four of us did the Stourport Ring in a week, fascinating. Because of this we booked again this year and starting from Gailey did the Black Country ring. As a young married couple in the early sixties my wife and I and her best fiend and boyfriend used to walk along the Birminingham and Fazeley Canal in the region of Pype Hayes, Castle Bromwich etc. At that time the canal had a black oily, turgid look and I am sure that if one fell in, one would never have lived. Of course we regularly passed under the Cincinnati bridge. This year in early spring sunshine heading for Gas Street Basin and that wonderful flight of locks from Snow Hill to Brindley Place, we passed under that Bridge again. What a difference, the water was fluid not congealed, not old tyres, prams, beer bottles etc and even the tow path looked civilised. Back in 1960, I never thought that I would be on the canal retracing those walks from years ago. All that was missing from the scene was the BCT blue and cream buses on routes 66 and 28 and the odd Midland Reds heading along the busy main road, that parallels the canal after Tyburn House. No we did not stop, we had left Fazeley that morning early and were determined to make Brindley Place as we had a date with the big Chinese restaurant there. Keep up all the interesting posts. By the way can anyone tell me how to open the thumbnails?
 
Many years ago I was commissioned to paint 4 watercolours of Gloucester Docks, a painters paradise, I have attached one, painted in the 70'sGloucester docks (2).JPG
 
Superb, a lot of it still looks like that today. I have taken a copy and on my next visit I will see if I can identify it, although it looks as if in the background is the Llanthony lifting bridge
 
Barges.JPGI've looked to see if either of these pictures have been shown before but as the theme is so extensive I obviously haven't done so in detail.
Nevertheless here they are!!!The top one is in the Birmingham Basin and the other on the River Severn presumably on the way to join the Worcester Canal. Eight barges are being towed and at the front what looks like a present day container flat bed barge. The vessel pulling is just about visible and looks like a traditional tug boat with a tall chimney. As with the Birmingham Basin barge most of those on the Severn show the same company, namely, Severn & Canal Carrying Co. Ltd..
 
Morturn. Thanks for pointing me in the direction of the fascinating link to the Severn & Canal Carrying co. Ltd. Some lovely pictures and informative texts written so well.
 
See on news this morning that Gas Street Basin leaking onto a railway line and has to drained for repair. Must be onto Cross City line out to Five Ways.
 
They Are Draining The Cut

Draining

They are draining the cut near to Gas Street Basin the reason is that
like me it has a week bladder, the difference is that none of my water is
is finding its way into a railway tunnel, at the cut they have blocked off
the water with what looks like two plastic curtains that you see on the side
of lorry's, I was there yesterday (Saturday) for some time and for the life of
me I could not see the canal water level drop, even though there are what
appears to be two pumps pumping the water away into another part of the canal,
I suspect but cannot prove that the water is leaking back into the canal
I may be wrong of course,


The plan was today (Sunday) that if the level has dropped enough the fish will be stunned
and moved to another part of the system so how do you stun a fish there are a number
of ways


1 Tell the fish that you have seen the owner of the local Fish and Chip shop
walking the canal side with a fishing rod,

2 Tell the fish there are to be moved to a small pond called Heron,s Way,

3 Hit the fish at the head end with a big hammer,

4 Electrocute the buggers,

As I understand it the last way is to be used on the fish that is assuming the canal
water level drops enough,
 
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I'm trying to find pictures of the trap doors that were put in bridges over canals so that the fire brigade could draw water in wartime.
I know the subject has been discussed on the site,but I can't find it.
TIA Nick
 
Hi Nick. There are photos from EllBrown on post #599 and #604. And here are some I posted from Streetview of Granville Street and Bath Row. The last on the bridge on Old Snow Hill.

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Just for interest and albeit further afield, a canal fire-access feature in Lichfield set into a lovely old brick wall. I like it. Viv.
 

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Apologies seem to have messed up position of photos. The second attachment is Old Snow Hill and the gate in the wall at Lichfield is the last photo. Viv.
 
Article on the BBC Birmingham site https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-31575430

A fish rescue operation at a section of leaking canal in Birmingham has begun.
A 200m (650ft) stretch around the Gas Street Basin is in the process of being drained so engineers can investigate water seeping from an aqueduct into a disused railway tunnel.
The rescue, due to have happened on Saturday, was delayed because two dams were not keeping out enough water to allow levels to drop sufficiently.
It is now expected to finish Sunday evening or Monday morning.
 
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