BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

[ChrisM]

Re: directry entries
Seems to change after 1914 (which isn't online)
1915 has
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As Martha died in 1918 I wonder if she had become unwell and Charles took back the reins?

I think there was some confusion over home addresses, business addresses and dual addresses, Janice. It appears that my brother was able to access hard copies of various local directories and did his best to interpret them. The moves are bewildering, over just a decade. My father's 1974 notes tell of the move from Summer Lane to bigger premises at 44 Snow Hill (1903), 20 Snow Hill (1911), Navigation Street (1914), and Prince of Wales Galleries, Broad Street (1917). The family itself moved their home in possibly 1912/13, out of Snow Hill to the cleaner air of Chessetts Wood/Knowle because of Martha's declining health. She died there in 1918.

(It was there that my father met my mother who was living in Knowle - another even more complicated family story, perhaps for another time!!!)

Chris

 

[Richard Dye]

As there are no times I suppose the ship could have docked early hours of 2nd and marriage was the afternoon of the 3rd.
Wonder what the rush was?

I am not sure what the rush was but I doubt one of those dates is correct unless the marriage certificate was pre filled. If they docked at 6.00am (which I did), went across town to Grand Central Terminal where the train was would take close to an hour in those days, now you are at 7.00am. The train was waiting add 12 hours (low side) for transport takes you to 7.00pm. Was the marriage conducted at the station .

 

[pjmburns]

I am not sure what the rush was but I doubt one of those dates is correct unless the marriage certificate was pre filled. If they docked at 6.00am (which I did), went across town to Grand Central Terminal where the train was would take close to an hour in those days, now you are at 7.00am. The train was waiting add 12 hours (low side) for transport takes you to 7.00pm. Was the marriage conducted at the station .

That would be 7pm on the 2nd, wouldn't it? The marriage was on the 3rd.

 

[ChrisM]

The more you think about it, the more possible it becomes, provided there was an early docking on the 2nd. Or an overnight train.

Whatever happened, poor old George Walter would have been a right old state before the formalities, trying desperately to meet his, probably self-inflicted, deadline! Assuming there was one - or did they just turn up and present themselves on the 3rd, immediately after arrival?

Chris

 

[pjmburns]

I think there was some confusion over home addresses, business addresses and dual addresses, Janice. It appears that my brother was able to access hard copies of various local directories and did his best to interpret them. The moves are bewildering, over just a decade. My father's 1974 notes tell of the move from Summer Lane to bigger premises at 44 Snow Hill (1903), 20 Snow Hill (1911), Navigation Street (1914), and Prince of Wales Galleries, Broad Street (1917). The family itself moved their home in possibly 1912/13, out of Snow Hill to the cleaner air of Chessetts Wood/Knowle because of Martha's declining health. She died there in 1918.

(It was there that my father met my mother who was living in Knowle - another even more complicated family story, perhaps for another time!!!)

Chris

The directories do list some home addresses (usually under the man's name) but I only searched for businesses.
1900 directory only has the Summer Lane address
1901 census lists the family at 38 Summer Lane - so I assume used for both.

1905 and 1908 directory lists


1911 census lists the famiy at 44 Snow Hill (so presumaby home and business).
1915 directory


1919 eroll has Charles at 29 Broad Street


1921 census seems to have Charles in Leamington

 

[pjmburns]

Thought you might like to see this 1921 census return

 

[ChrisM]

Thought you might like to see this 1921 census return

Thanks, Janice, again, great! They were only married in the January and so just crept into the 1921.

On Charles and Leamington, also 1921. Would you be kind enough to see whether there was a Mrs. Steadman, also in Leamington at the same time, please? There was quiet talk of an "association" of some sort between her and the widower, Charles. (I MAY even have an image of her). This may have endured and I might have to cling on until the 2031 to be certain (highly unlikely event, but there we are)! Thanks so much.

Chris

 

[MWS]

You may already know this Chris but it appears that the Bannister sisters had a younger brother, Joseph b1893 who died at the age of 2.

 

[pjmburns]

There is a family of Steadmans on the 1921. (I'll post the transcript as it is easier to read).
Address 32 Greathead Road Leamington

 

[pjmburns]

By 1939 he was back in Birmingham
664 Kingstanding Road

 

[pjmburns]

1920 eroll he is listed at 271 Ladywood Road (business address) but his home is Station Road Knowle.