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Where is This #205?
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Unveiling a plaque to commemorate the visit of Queen Victoria and her mother to Aston Hall? The Queen - a young princess at the time - was on a tour of the country with her mother and they were the guests of James Watt Junior. Viv.
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They stayed at the Royal Hotel and later visited the manufactory of a Mr Thomason, jeweller silversmith etc at 29 Church st (see drawing below) and the duchess of Kent pulled a cord which started a press to strike a commemorative medal with the head of George 4th on one side and Queen Adelaide on the other side with wording commemmorating the visit of the duchess and princess to the city. I would guess the top of the plaque might be a reproduction of the medal?
Visit of Queen Elisabeth II? Viv
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Was the plaque removed from somewhere else? Perhaps from Aston Hall to another venue? The background detail doesn't look like Aston Hall, looks more modern. If it was moved, have no idea why! Viv
Just had a thought. Maybe it was moved to the site of Styles Hotel (as mentioned in Mike's post #3) or maybe to the Council House? Viv
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paul stacey
master brummie
There is a chef in the background so quite possibly the Hotel mentioned in Viv's, reply #11.
paul stacey
master brummie
The Royal Hotel was sited in Temple Row I believe, I don't know much about it but it had many famous guests including Queen Victoria, and I believe it was the venue for French residents in Birmingham, where it was the main venue in the UK for celebrating "Storming the Bastille". I don't know much else.
they demolished all those fine georgian buildings and built rackhams phil....i think it was round about then...
lyn
Yes Lyn, and the Mayor opened it in 1960. Was the plaque put into Rackhams store? Don't remember seeing it in there but if it was in the restaurant, I never went in there. But I don't quite see the connection if it went into Rackhams. Viv
Blimey, the hospitality wasn't too hot, the Mayor had to cook his own lunch!
Blimey, the hospitality wasn't too hot, the Mayor had to cook his own lunch!
It has to be something to do with this as already mentioned by Mikejee. But I thought Dee's Royal Hotel wasn't on the site of Rackham's. Thought it was further along Temple Row, moving towards Cherryst.
So assuming Dee's Royal was where Rackham's /House of Fraser stood/stands, the picture is of the plaque being installed in Rackham's restaurant when it opened because it would have been roughly where the bedroom was in which Princess Victoria stayed. Viv.
So assuming Dee's Royal was where Rackham's /House of Fraser stood/stands, the picture is of the plaque being installed in Rackham's restaurant when it opened because it would have been roughly where the bedroom was in which Princess Victoria stayed. Viv.
paul stacey
master brummie
#20, I think it moved somewhere out side of Brum ,Sutton Coldfield?
Now seem to remember seeing an old map of Temple Row with a passage (can't remember the passage name but it branched off Temple Row - near Bull St. end - and it had 'Hotel' marked near to it) Would this be where Dee's Royal Hotel was, i e now under House of Fraser? Viv.
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Betty Hopper
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Hello Viv,
Do you happen to remember the name of the Lord Mayor???
Betty.
Do you happen to remember the name of the Lord Mayor???
Betty.
Hi Betty. It was probably John Henry Lewis. Viv
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Betty Hopper
master brummie
Thanks Viv,
Wrong chap. Thought it may be Alderman Boughton.
Betty
Wrong chap. Thought it may be Alderman Boughton.
Betty
Actually Betty you could be right, it depends when it was opened. Alderman Boughton was Mayor in 1960 too. Afraid I don't know the precise date the Mayor opened the store. Viv.
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Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
It was nothing to do with the Lord Mayor, though I don't doubt he put in an appearance that could be him in the photo for all I know. The Old Royal was on the corner of Bradford Passage and Temple Row and it was demolished when Rackham's was built, so what was the photo commemorating. I can't say any more without giving it away.
