Wow, thank you all so much for responding, and so quickly.
I am in Australia researching for my husband’s mother ( a Devine who descended from Ann Whale’s second husband Patrick Devine) Also doing a Uni course in Family History, intrigued by poor Ann. Wondering why she would be married, had a child, William 1825-1826 and turned to tricking children out of money. Were things that bad for her in Birmingham? Can’t find what happened to Michael WhAle or Ann’s family. I have an extensive tree on Ancestry (Hocking Family Tree) but so many queries.
Interestingly, once Patrick and Ann married in NSW the hunt goes cold. Patrick had been a convict sentenced for seven years. Once free they applied to marry so Ann was granted a conditional pardon - she was free to marry and make a life in Australia but could not return to England without consequences. Maybe they changed their names. it seems Patrick had already fathered a son (Frederick Ambrose Devine) who came to Australia after his father and hence the Devine branch continued.