Vixen
master brummie
Hi All Was hoping someone may be able to assist. My great Grandmother was Gertrude Cummings who married William Swinden. This I know as fact. My grandmother was Vera Swinden whose dad was Willliam Swinden. Her mother Gertrude has proved quite difficult to nail down and there are various trees on an ancestry site who think her mother was Hannah Warrington, Hannah Page etc. However, Hannah Page married James Cummings and on Gertrudes wedding bans, her dad is named as John Cummings. Gertrude had a brother John Cummings who lives with her on the 1939 Census. They are living at 187 Finchley Road, Birmingham. John is two years difference in age to Gertrude, being younger. Hannah Page and James Cummings did not have a son called John.
I have discovered I have DNA matches with people with the Brayne Family or at least this is what the DNA matches on the ancestry site are showing. A Gertrude Brayne/Brain was born to a Fanny Brayne/Brain born around 1860 and fanny was married to a John Cummings (Born abt 1862) tho I cant find a marriage record presently but on the census for 1891 it says she is married. Fanny died in 1894 and on the 1901 census, Gertrude can be found with John her dad, John her brother and Amelia and Emily. Fanny is not there and John is widowed. Emily was born Brayne as was Gertrude whereas John and Amelia were born Cummings. To clear up any confusion I was wondering if anyone had a birth certificate for Gertrude or could double check the info I have.
The one main area I am confused on is Gertrudes age/date of birth and birth registration. On the 1939 Census she has her birth down as 1st Jan 1888 but on the 1891 census Gertrude is down as being 11mths old. This is confusing me as to why her birthday would be down as 1st Jan 1888. If anyone could help unravel this for me and to ID that John and Fanny are definitely her parents I would be grateful. On her wedding bans to William her dad is named as John Cummings, not a James Cummings. I think Im just so confused as to why so many trees have her parents as Hannah and James who did not have a son called John Cummings and Gertrude definitely had a brother John
I have discovered I have DNA matches with people with the Brayne Family or at least this is what the DNA matches on the ancestry site are showing. A Gertrude Brayne/Brain was born to a Fanny Brayne/Brain born around 1860 and fanny was married to a John Cummings (Born abt 1862) tho I cant find a marriage record presently but on the census for 1891 it says she is married. Fanny died in 1894 and on the 1901 census, Gertrude can be found with John her dad, John her brother and Amelia and Emily. Fanny is not there and John is widowed. Emily was born Brayne as was Gertrude whereas John and Amelia were born Cummings. To clear up any confusion I was wondering if anyone had a birth certificate for Gertrude or could double check the info I have.
The one main area I am confused on is Gertrudes age/date of birth and birth registration. On the 1939 Census she has her birth down as 1st Jan 1888 but on the 1891 census Gertrude is down as being 11mths old. This is confusing me as to why her birthday would be down as 1st Jan 1888. If anyone could help unravel this for me and to ID that John and Fanny are definitely her parents I would be grateful. On her wedding bans to William her dad is named as John Cummings, not a James Cummings. I think Im just so confused as to why so many trees have her parents as Hannah and James who did not have a son called John Cummings and Gertrude definitely had a brother John