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Clifton Road Aston

Jayell said:
Hi Doris. I did save the map that Mike put on. I noticed that one side the little blue boxes (houses) were smaller than the other side. Does that mean that some houses were larger than others? I don't remember your map but I guess I must have seen it. The photo of the ladies of (probably) Gothic Terrace was put on the "Gothic Terrace, Clifton Road" thread by Aston Lad - post#5

Judy
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Hi Judy ,you're right ,the houses on the left of the terrace had small kitchens .the staircase was in the main and only living room ,tucked up the corner.This meant you had one very small and one normal size bedroom .As you can imagine the landing was just a small square space.It was most of the houses on that side that still used gas lights.Thanks for the info on the picture I will try and find it Doris.
 
Hi, My paternal Grandparents lived in Clifton Road (190). Horace and Lilian Brown with my Dad, Albert (Topper) Brown. My Grandad had been in the Royal Marines and served in the far east including China and became postman on his return to civvy street. My Grandmother was a cleaner/housekeeper. The shop opposite was Robins and was owned by my Grans family but she never had any part in it. I believe the factory over the road was Accuratus or similar. I belive there was a Mrs Greaves who was a piano teacher, Baileys Coal Merchants and I'm told a Mr Evans who played for the Villa! Other names that my parents recall from Clifton Road are Roy Passey, Ethel Russell, Peggy Princip and Eileen Tatum. Dave Wesbury I belive also lived in Clifton Road and went on to become MD of GKN!
My Parents are Albert and Jean Brown. My Dad was known as Bert or Topper and my Mom lived at 126 Upper Sutton Street and was previously a Reynolds. Both attended Sixways Church Youth Club. They are both still alive and if anyone would like to contact them via me I'm sure they would be receptive. Dad played for both Villa and West Brom youth teams and was offered professional forms but my Grandad didn't view it as a 'proper' job and as Dad was under 21 wouldn't sign the forms.
 
[FONT=&quot]Memories Of Early Life [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Iwas born in Aston Road 1936.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Mymother and father were Albert and Winifred Allsopp.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Ihad a sister named June who was 2 years older than me.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Asa youngster I have visual pictures of what life was like then.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Iremember going to a market one day and seeing all the stalls.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Mothergave me a picture book to read and at that time the book had photos of ShirleyTemple.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Onenight we were hurled into an air raid shelter. the next thing that I rememberis being put into dad’s car from where I could see that a section of theterraces block had been demolished .Later I was told that the next shelter tous had had a direct hit from a bomb. It must have been that moment that fatherhad decided that was enough and he decided to pack up all our thing and move.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Soof we went towards Tamworth and finally settled in a small village called MileOak.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Motherdied in 1940 and father married Mother’s sister Elsie Yardley [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Fatherworked at the Nuffields factory at Castle Bromwich as a maintenance fitter. Hewas killed in an accident at Sutton Coldfield in 1945.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]SoI was brought up in Mile Oak and during that time my Step mother took me towhere she was brought up in Clifton Road .where Granddad Yardley lived withBessie Lowe who was my stepmom’s best friend .Bessie did not have a happy family life so she stayed at thehouse as granddad’s house keeper[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Iremember specially the Christmases we had there. It was full of fun we all satround a piano and sang songs and danced round it .Bessie (Aunty I called her)would be seated at the piano.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Grandfatherwas a very ardent support of Aston Villa and would go and watch them play everytime there was a match on.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Ido remember the smell you could wet from the HP sauce factory down the road.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Anotherincident that I remember well is my Uncle Frank taking my sister and me to the [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Cinema on Aston Cross tosee George Formby.[/FONT]
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Roy it's so nice to read your story of your childhood thank you so much for sharing it with us. These memories must never be forgotten.
 
A bit late but a great thread.

My great great grandmother lived in Clifford Road in 1920 at 106, she was on her 3rd husband by then, Elizabeth and Frank Carwardine. Not sure how long they lived there for, Frank died in 1928 & Elizabeth in 1947. They were living in Trafalgar Road in 1911.

And my great grandfather lived at 6 court 9 Clifford Road from 1922 to at least 1939 I think. He was Thomas William Brownhill who married Rose Watts. I'm guessing my nan was born there she was Doris Rose Brownhill.
 
Hello Ray,

Which suggests that my great great grandmother moved out some time before then, possibly when her husband had died.

Thanks.
 
My mothers family the Vales lived at 142 Clifton road. If my memory serves me right ( it was 50 years ago ) the entry shown on the map was to the left of the house, This would make the house marked in the plan 142. With 140 being to the right of it the other side of the entry. The couple living at 144 were the Johnsons.
 
Hello all,

My name is kathy. I have just found this site and was quite intrigued to find my nan and grandad's names were up. My nan and grandad lived at 2/99 Clifton Road and there names were Lily and Tommy Preston. I also lived in Aston in High Street and my parents are Lily and Sammy McCann. Does any one remember them
 
Hello Kathy,
Go back to post No.121 your mom Lily is on that photo.,also her mom and cousin Ina.I lived across the road from the Prestons They all lived up the same yard.My pal lived next door to your mom Lily.
 
thanks ray its lovely when i hear about them i can,t wait for more info and stories i think some of my nans family use this site so maybe they will see i,m on does anyone have any memories on my mom and dad (young lily )and my dad sammy mccann love to hear them
 
Hi Kathy and welcome to the forum. Ray posted a photo a while back on the Franchise street Wellhead Lane thread and there in the front row was my Nanny Pem as large as life. Rays Nan was on the photo too and I guess they must have known one another?.
 
yes maybe, im just getting used to writing on this site so im a bit slow but ive just been reading about the gothic houses and someone said their neighbors names and the name bullock was mentioned well that was my nans (lily preston)s dads name jack (john)bullock he lived in aston iwonder if it is him i have tried to look at the picture you were talking about and i can,t get to look at it look forward to hearing from you
 
My grandfather Joseph Underhill was a boarder at 38 Clifton Road in 1901, he was staying with Ada, Harold & May Smith & William Goldingay. Its so interesting reading everyone's stories.
 
Re: Clifton Road

Hi newbie, Did you have a brother in law who used to be a bus driver I think his name was Arthur Burford I my self didn't live in Clifton Road I went to school in Upper Thomas Street seniors from 1953 to 1957 I also knew Benny and Lily Burford they were Steward and Stewardess at the Labour Club Victoria Road they moved to Worcester Labour Club I stayed there for a couple of weeks with their son Ben
 
hi Louisa my name is Jason moss
lily was my nan and Arthur and daisy was my dad and mom. liked your post about my great nan, and would like to know more, has Im trying to do my family tree.[
are you Thomas or George's daughter, please get in contact.

=Louisa;75810]Thanks for all the memories and information about Clifton Road. My Grandmother Louisa Moss lived at no 30 Clifton Road from 1920 until she died there in 1959.

Faye you answered a query I was going to have to look up to add to my family history and it was the name of the pub on the corner of Clifton road. I had been racking my brains to remember it.

I remember it was a bone of contention with my mother that on Saturday nights and Sunday dinnertime my father met up with his mother and all his family in the pub on the corner of Clifton Road and usually came home tipsy.

My memories as a very youg child was of having to wait outside the pub for my father and I can vividly remember the sudden smell of beer and a thick smokey haze as the door to the pub opened and men tumbled out, and I could hear my granny singing at the top of her voice.

My mother thought the family were common being boatmen and granny also sniffed snuff and was the boss in the family talking twenty to the dozen and ruling the roost. She often got in squables with the neighbours and at the pub. My father was arrested once for being drunk and disorderly in Clifton Road and she was at the bottom of the pub row he got into. My mother refused to stand bail for him to learn him a lesson and there was a big row with my granny who had to go herself and bail my father out of the police station which I think was at Victoria road but could be wrong. I think the bail money was ten shillings. Needless to say he was still grannys favourite.

She didnt like me to go to my grannys at all as she thought I would pick up bad habits ie bad manners.

My mother would have been mortified if she found out I had gone to fetch a jug of beer from the outdoor in Clifton Road for my granny, but I wasnt sure if it was at the pub as you also mentioned an outdoor on the same road. My memory is a bit hazy after over 50 years.

My one regret now is that I didnt take too much notice of the family information that I would not find most useful to add to my family history. Everyone that would know anything has now passed on.[/QUOTE]
 
Hello Jason.
The three three pubs on corners were "The bricklayers Arms" on the corner of Potters Hill, "The Crown" on the corner of Upper Sutton St.and the "Golden Lion" on the corner of Upper Thomas St.At No.100 was the outdoor kept by Dolly Mellon her husband had played football for Aston Villa.
 
was dolly`s partner who played for aston villa frank moss?


Hello Jason.
The three three pubs on corners were "The bricklayers Arms" on the corner of Potters Hill, "The Crown" on the corner of Upper Sutton St.and the "Golden Lion" on the corner of Upper Thomas St.At No.100 was the outdoor kept by Dolly Mellon her husband had played football for Aston Villa.[/QUOTE]
 
Re: Clifton Road

gpops

I have a family here in Canada of Benny and Lily who are looking for their descendants there. Benny and his siblings were separated early in their lives - one sister, Bessie was sent to Canada by the Dr. Barnardo Homes. She never saw her twin sister Belinda ever again - she'd always thought she died in the home back in England, which she hadn't. Two of the siblings died young. Ben, the only surviving sibling in England had posted an ad in a newspaper here in Canada looking for his sister - which she happened to see. Bessie did travel to the UK to visit the family at one point - but her Grandchildren have no idea about this family and are looking for their cousins there. You were speaking about this family in your posting so I am hoping you might be able to help me get in touch with these descendants. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Re: Clifton Road Coal Merchant

That was Mr Baglin his son worked for him after he left that be around 1956 the sons name I think was Ken
 
Re: Clifton Road

gpops said:
Hi newbie, Did you have a brother in law who used to be a bus driver I think his name was Arthur Burford I my self didn't live in Clifton Road I went to school in Upper Thomas Street seniors from 1953 to 1957 I also knew Benny and Lily Burford they were Steward and Stewardess at the Labour Club Victoria Road they moved to Worcester Labour Club I stayed there for a couple of weeks with their son Ben
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gpops, just so your not confused about which message I'm interested in, its the family of Benny and Lily Burford - Benny's sister's family here in Canada is looking for their relatives in the UK.
 
Hi Ray. My name is Robert Burley and my Father was Arthur Burley who kept the Bricklayers arms. In fact I was born upstairs in the pub in February 1952 and if you have any photos of the place I would be very pleased to see them. Very few of the pictures you have put on the site seem to be available today. I am intrigued by your description of my grandmother as "the bookmaker Mrs Burley". I know a few things about her but this one was new to me.
 
1940's and 1950's
My mom lived at number 3, back of 34 Clifton road; her maiden name was Rainey, she went to Upper Thomas street junior school till 11, then went to Vicarage road school till 15
...her mom and dad was Elsie and George Rainey.

My dad originally lived at number 3, back of 47 Whitehead road and went to Prince Albert junior and infant school and then Upper Thomas street school till he was 15; after his mom and dad moved to
113 Tower road (used to be a porn brokers shop previously).......his mom and dad were Leonard Arthur and Evelyn Hailing (Leonard Arthur served in the army and ended up in Burma)

My mom and dad (both born in 1939) got married and bought a house on Tower road; number 3 located at the back of 134.......... Leonard Derrick and Christine Hailing
(They moved out due to compulsory purchase order)

My aunt and uncle; Brenda and Derek Mansell lived a few doors away from 113 Tower road during the same time.

My dad's granddad owned the sweet shop "Neals?" on Brearley street.

Note: Someone has posted a photo of my mom's house when she was little.............. it brought a tear to her eye when I showed her the picture yesterday.

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Re: Clifton Road Coal Merchant

My mom dated Kenny Baglin for a short time when she was about 14
Around 10 years ago my mom and dad bumped into him near Kingstanding
She thinks she remembers that he lived by Peacocks shop on Upper Sutton street, but the coal yard was in Clifton road

Mom also dated Frankie White (painter and decorator) who rode a Bantam motorbike? (his brother was a policeman)
 
My uncle Ron Rainey married the daughter "Doreen" of Mr and Mrs Toon who lived in Clifton road, in a grocery/sweet shop, top end of the road towards Park road. The box folder company was pretty much opposite,
 
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