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Barton's Arms High Street Aston

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Vikki

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I'm looking for any information on The Bartons Arms in Aston prior to it's rebuild in the early 1900's.

Any information on owners or landlords or even staff would be appreciated as I can't find anything online about it.

Thanks
Vikki
 

Alf

Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Vikki

If you put Bartons Arms in the search box at the top of the page that will help you.:)
 
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Vikki

Guest
Thanks Alf, I'd already done that & came up with nothing before 1900.
 

sylviasayers

master brummie
The Bartons Arms

Vikki have you looked on the main site, John Houghton put a long article there some time ago, I can't recall all the details but it may help you.
 

Di.Poppitt

master brummie
Vikki, if you have any surnames you think may have owned the pub, you might be lucky if you request a search in the Kelly's section for the relevant dates.:)
 
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Vikki

Guest
Vikki have you looked on the main site, John Houghton put a long article there some time ago, I can't recall all the details but it may help you.

Hiya, yes I think I have seen that article. I have searched this site for weeks before posting & searched online where I can think.

Thanks though.
Vikki
 
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Vikki

Guest
Vikki,

It would seem there are no records pre-dating its rebuild in 1900/1? Have a look here: https://tinyurl.com/ypfn86https://tinyurl.com/ypfn86

hiya
I've read that page many a times as it happens lol, which is how I knew F S Poole sold the property in 1899.

F S Poole is not a name I am searching for.

I am probably on a wild goose chase on this, but the family story goes, that my great grandmother was done out of her inheritance by her brothers (now found she had no brothers but she did have uncles). Her mother died when she was a few years old and it looks as though she was brought up by her grandmother.

The other story goes that there was family money in The Barton Arms.

So imagine my surprise when I find out that the grandmother she lived with (in 1881) was called Sarah Barton & her uncles were Bartons.

It left me wondering if the 2 were connected.

But I can't seem to find any history on why it was called the Bartons Arms.

Like I say a wild goose chase, but I really want to find out I am wrong so I can stop looking lol.
 
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Vikki

Guest
Vikki, if you have any surnames you think may have owned the pub, you might be lucky if you request a search in the Kelly's section for the relevant dates.:)
I looked on there last night, but didn't spot anything relevant for the Bartons Arms. I didn't spot how to search with a surname though, will be looking again!
 

jennyann

master brummie
Staff member
Vikki: Good luck with your search on the Bartons. My grandmother on my Mother's side was Laura Barton from the Witton area and there was always talk in the family about a connection with The Barton's Arms. My grandmother was born in, I think, the late l800's. I don't know anymore sadly since my Mother ditched all her Mother's relatives and I never met any of them.
 
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Vikki

Guest
Vikki: Good luck with your search on the Bartons. My grandmother on my Mother's side was Laura Barton from the Witton area and there was always talk in the family about a connection with The Barton's Arms. My grandmother was born in, I think, the late l800's. I don't know anymore sadly since my Mother ditched all her Mother's relatives and I never met any of them.
hi Jenny,
I've not yet come across a Laura Barton, but research has been hard on that line. Do you know your grandfathers name at all?
I would like to talk more about this if your interested?
Please IM me & I will send u my email.
Vikki
 

gingerjon

master brummie
Barton's Arms

prior to 1900 the Barton's Arms was run by a Thomas Fulford research so far from 1868 to 1880 there were several Barton family's around at this time but none with connections to the Barton's Arms just up from Potters Lane was a field called Barton's field or wood just by Birch wood Rod is trying to confirm more about this area
prior to 1868 there was a Fulford family as brewsters in Aston and Birmingham reference Kelly's
 
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Wendy

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I always find it facinating with adresses. I have a death certificate for my gt grandfather's sister Ann Wilks who died in 1880 she lived at back of 275 Farm Street. This would be the back house of Thomas Fulford. The other Jennings's lived at no's 229,236,231. I believe my great grandfather owned one of these houses.
 
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Vikki

Guest
prior to 1900 the Barton's Arms was run by a Thomas Fulford research so far from 1868 to 1880 there were several Barton family's around at this time but none with connections to the Barton's Arms just up from Potters Lane was a field called Barton's field or wood just by Birch wood Rod is trying to confirm more about this area
prior to 1868 there was a Fulford family as brewsters in Aston and Birmingham reference Kelly's

excellant! I can rule out any connections to the Bartons Arms!

Thank you!
 
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Vikki

Guest
Thanks to everyone who has given me information, even if it still leaves the question as to where does the story come from lol
 
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Rod

Guest
I wouldnt yet rule it out, a connection I mean. Genealogy has some very strange twists and turns.
 
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tyger

Guest
Family stories tell of my great grandfather, a wealthy jeweller in the area, riding his horse to the pub on a Friday night, getting completely legless, and then falling off again on the way home. Unable to remount the horse in such a condition he'd ask a passing policeman for help and then give him a tip - sometimes a whole sovereign, which he'd then demand back the next day because it was a great deal more than was appropriate for the services provided! This became such a regular event, and as he was so well known locally, and so wealthy, they eventually renamed the pub after him. His name was Charles P Barton, born 1829, and he lived at Bearly Street West in the St Georges district.
 

mikejee

Super Moderator
Staff member
There was a Charles Barton at 71 (back of) Brearley Street West in the 1876 and 1880 directories . Previously to that (1873) he was in Ford St (no number given). I gather he was an albert chain maker. i had to look that up, but then realised my grandfather had one , the guard chain that fitted to a pocket watch.
Mike
 

Astoness

TRUE BRUMMIE MODERATOR
Staff member
hi tyger.. what an interesting story... you have put your gg grandfather lived in bearly st west but i think you must mean brearley st west... if that is correct i too had ancestors living there so if you type in brearley st in the search box at the top of the page i have posted some pictures that you may find of interest.

regards

astonesss.:)
 

gingerjon

master brummie
update regarding The Barton Arms prior to 1900

Aston new town. 1840
Arnold Mr. William
Baker Mr. James
Bartlam Chas. grocer and brush maker
Barton Arms, William Aston
Batkin Mr
Britain J. G. inspector of fire arms
Cameron James, excise officer
Cooper Thomas, maltster
Duke Mr. William
Edwards Wm. steel converter, improved
music steel, steel & iron
wire manufacturer. (Aston furnace mills)
Fisher J, Britannia metal ware manufacturer
Gee Mr. Thomas, adjuster of small
scale beams
Greener Wm. gun manufacturer
Hall William, carpenter
Hall William, shopkeeper
Henshaw Mr
Hardin Mr
Holder & Rlchard, pearl button manufacturer-
(Potter's meadow)
Lees Mrs
Lee Mr. Thomas
Lees Mr. John
Little Thomas, boot & shoe maker
Low Mr
Lockitt John modeIIer
Manton Mr William
Roden William, rnaltster
Siviter John jeweller
Snape Samuel, accountant
Sherwood Mr
Treadwell G R rail road contractor
Tayler John, modeller
Whitehead Josh. cabinet maker
Whitehead Thomas, cabinet maker
Wrlght Mr. Charles
 
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