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They Were Caught In Our Old Street Pics...
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Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
It looks like it is the somewhere on the Birmingham New Road as this was proposed around 1909, to join isolated towns of the Black Country. Coseley, Tipton, Dudley, Rowley Regis, Oldbury and Smethwick. The proposed route would have 6 miles new and other roads widened, and be 1.5 miles shorter than the present route.
I suggest the (now) footbridge over the Wolves new road at Tividale, shown by arrow on google view
It was once a tramway bridge connecting different parts of Quarries (see c1917 map before new road), but bridge was retained after new road (see map c 1938), and later the bridge, but possibly not the supporting brickwork, was rebuilt, (see preseent view from road)
It was once a tramway bridge connecting different parts of Quarries (see c1917 map before new road), but bridge was retained after new road (see map c 1938), and later the bridge, but possibly not the supporting brickwork, was rebuilt, (see preseent view from road)
Amazing detective work ! Viv.
The slag heap may have been a 'Blue Billy' heap, I know there were some in that area, most have been removed in the 70's
Eric Gibson
master brummie
Your 'blue billy' comment led me to this wiki page which some might find very interesting, I did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_gasification
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_gasification
I was very interested in that reference, as there was a "hill" of waste from the Chance works at Langley named Blue Billy because of its colour. As I understand it, this was formed from waste calcium sulphate produxed in the production of raw materials for glassmaking.
Regarding Morturn's comment, the part of the quarry north ofthe line of the Wolves new road appears, on the c1938 map, to be non-functioning, so may well hav ebeen used to dump waste
Regarding Morturn's comment, the part of the quarry north ofthe line of the Wolves new road appears, on the c1938 map, to be non-functioning, so may well hav ebeen used to dump waste
Smudger
master brummie
Ah the good old days, how we miss them. That ragamuffin standing in the doorway should beware of that heavy object on the window cill above.
DavidGrain
master brummie
I know this thread has moved on but if I could go back to the Wolverhampton Road and the Railway Bridge as some one who knows the road from having lived at several points along it.
There were four bridges over the Wolverhampton Road. From the Birmingham end:
1.Near Causeway Green Oldbury. Still in use for the Stourbridge line from Snow Hill.
2.Tividale. This was always a mistery to me as I never knew of a railway at this point. Later when I got to know the Godfrey reprints, I discovered it was a mineral tramway from the Rowley hills to the Canal at Oldbury presumably taking minerals from the Rowley Quarries. I don't think the photo was of this bridge as it was always on a steep gradient much lower on one side of the road than the other. The photo in post 2380 by Old Mowhawk shows this line which was a single track. The bridge was converted into a footbridge mainly for Tividale School and has since been replaced by another bridge but the abutments are still there on oneside of the road.
3. Tipton near Black Country Museum. This was the South Staffs Railway from Dudley to Burton on Trent. Disused for many years but the vegetation has just been cleared from it in readiness for the Midland Metro from Wednesbury to Brierley Hill.
4. Tipton other side of Black Country Museum. Oxford, Worcester & Wolverhampton Railway (OWW, the Old Worse and Worse). Now demolished but abutments still visible.
Of the four bridges my best guess would be no. 3 above.
The Blue Billy was at Birchley Crossings in Park Street now removed for building of Churchbridge, the road from Birchley to Oldbury town centre
There were four bridges over the Wolverhampton Road. From the Birmingham end:
1.Near Causeway Green Oldbury. Still in use for the Stourbridge line from Snow Hill.
2.Tividale. This was always a mistery to me as I never knew of a railway at this point. Later when I got to know the Godfrey reprints, I discovered it was a mineral tramway from the Rowley hills to the Canal at Oldbury presumably taking minerals from the Rowley Quarries. I don't think the photo was of this bridge as it was always on a steep gradient much lower on one side of the road than the other. The photo in post 2380 by Old Mowhawk shows this line which was a single track. The bridge was converted into a footbridge mainly for Tividale School and has since been replaced by another bridge but the abutments are still there on oneside of the road.
3. Tipton near Black Country Museum. This was the South Staffs Railway from Dudley to Burton on Trent. Disused for many years but the vegetation has just been cleared from it in readiness for the Midland Metro from Wednesbury to Brierley Hill.
4. Tipton other side of Black Country Museum. Oxford, Worcester & Wolverhampton Railway (OWW, the Old Worse and Worse). Now demolished but abutments still visible.
Of the four bridges my best guess would be no. 3 above.
The Blue Billy was at Birchley Crossings in Park Street now removed for building of Churchbridge, the road from Birchley to Oldbury town centre
oldMohawk
gone but not forgotten
I had put this pic in the Martineau Street thread because the lower end of the street is not often seen in old pics. But of course I could not fail to notice that tram inspector caught in the middle of the pic looking rather sad about the approaching end of Birmingham's tram empire, and as already been noticed (in the other thread) he reminded me of someone ....
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Possibly the GEC in Electric Avenue? They use to make some very big turbine parts. I do recall looking into their turbine workshop, I have never seen such a large enclosed space before, absolutely enormously mind bogglingly big
Smudger
master brummie
It could be him oldMohawk, i believe he did spend some time in England. :-}I had put this pic in the Martineau Street thread because the lower end of the street is not often seen in old pics. But of course I could not fail to notice that tram inspector caught in the middle of the pic looking rather sad about the approaching end of Birmingham's tram empire, and as already been noticed (in the other thread) he reminded me of someone ....
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Smudger
master brummie
Elvis on a secret trip to Brum.It's Corporation Street and that man on the bus platform reminds me that I often did that until buses with driver operated doors appeared and our jumping on and off moving buses ended ....
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Bob Davis
Bob Davis
Another one for the health and safety file!!!It's Corporation Street and that man on the bus platform reminds me that I often did that until buses with driver operated doors appeared and our jumping on and off moving buses ended ....
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Bob Davis
Bob Davis
Come on Stitcher, before you take all these photographs will you please ensure that all Health and Safety regulations are followed. This one is a criminal offence now and would get the company shut down. There are so many things wrong here that I cannot even start to count them....What a cracking picture though and of course in reality it is not real, you have been playing with all the airbrushing and photo adjustment websites that have been discussed lately. I am surprised the running man was not in it.
Bob
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
I think Sticher has been stitched up by that Pedro!
Bob Davis
Bob Davis
Stitcher my apologies, why did I think this was one of yours? I know that you are of course keen on H & S and would have ensured that at least the guy standing on the object being lifted was wearing gloves!!!!!! Pedro lets talk about this H & S thing, one more infringement and gosh the fines are astronomic, thanks for correcting me so diplomatically
Bob
Another great set of photos Pedro.
Locations anyone ?
What's the bands name ? ...EVE FOX BAND ?
"Civic" was a tv shop.
Viv.
Locations anyone ?
What's the bands name ? ...EVE FOX BAND ?
"Civic" was a tv shop.
Viv.
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