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OLD AND NEW PHOTOGRAPHS

We now move to the City Centre and Hurst Street - there was a conversation about the location months ago but I cannot recall it but I feel it was about this area -
As you can see we are outside the Hippodrome and looking across to the "Old" Fox, we are coming to the end of the redevelopment around there - very much and ancient and modern as we will see
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The pub’s now called the Sly Old Fox, reopened last year.
 
Roll 63 now and we are back to old Pub photographs I will try not to duplicate previous posts - but it may happen, shout and I will remove them. The first picture is the Rose and Crown Brealey Street but taken from the side - I have posted a front picture before.
Its an interesting view as in reality there is quite a lot of space behind the frontage and its not as large as you may think. I like the fence - high security and the little round window on the side too

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Roll 63 now and we are back to old Pub photographs I will try not to duplicate previous posts - but it may happen, shout and I will remove them. The first picture is the Rose and Crown Brealey Street but taken from the side - I have posted a front picture before.
Its an interesting view as in reality there is quite a lot of space behind the frontage and its not as large as you may think. I like the fence - high security and the little round window on the side too

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Chestnut Fencing and a Bullseye Window
 
We are now looking up Bracebridge Street with the Old Vine Pub , its unusual these days to see the mix of shops especially a record shop, next to an Off license next to houses and a pub on the end of the street !! Am I right in thinking there is another pub ( Ansells?) even further up the road?

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Next we have something different - an Atkinsons Pub ; taken in 1959 this is standing in Washwood Heath Road , looking quite old with its leaded windows and the sign to the gardens. Few interesting things - The large over the side entrance - the bus stop sign - the projecting Stableford sign and the child stood on their own
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Next we have The King Edward Lichfield Road - I have posted a more modern picture of this place but this is 1941, nice car out the front - can you imagine parking there these days !! Dark painted building but I think it was an M & B thing as I have seen a few pubs in the scheme

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here is it in 2012 steve...gone about 10 years now and built on..the landlord took on the aston tavern further up but he didnt stay there long

 
Now apologies for this shot, the road sign says Warwick Road - but as its a long road I am not sure of it relationship to the Dolphin. A selection of shops with older building close but a look down the road have more modern ( relatively) buildings. Again these were taken December 1991
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I quickly believed it to be here .. what is now Station Road, Solihull, that soon connects with Warwick Road and others at a roundabout not much further down, perhaps earlier with a more direct connection.


I remember Solihull from the 50's and 60s before the later new road layouts, bypass and construction/pedestrianisation came along, and was at first persuaded it was this by such similarities as the set-back frontages of the distant parade of shops with their own off-street parking - which I used countless times - and by there still being a bus stop close to the setback point in both, and even by there still being a Nationwide Est Ag'y on the nearer parade today.

And then I did the dangerous thing of comparing both views directly side-by-side, which always overstates discrepancies of course and makes you see different claddings and window styles/sizes further down plus ALLLLLL those gables to the upper level of the nearer properties, the roofs there now being much different; not to mention the appearance of what I will call the Ladbrokes building where there was none-such previously.

But when 'progress' happens and changes are measured in decades, these very differences are often found looking back a generation or three - changed windows; restored frontages; side-streets that disappear beneath new networks and thoroughfares; re-roofing and disappeared gables/features; even chimneys mass-slaughtered, and all in the name of progress of course ... allegedly.

But nostalgia blurs your vision, and my initial knee-jerk recognition has now taken a serious beating from the many things that are different in those two images just the same way that many are also the same between them, not least the fundamental appearance.

So I am now exactly on the fence regarding whether it is the same, or is genuinely somewhere else along the Warwick Road that just has the same echo today.

And if someone else is able to point out definitively that the 1991 photo is of somewhere else and didn't become Station Rd. Solihull 31 years later, or that it is indeed one and the same, I might sleep tonight!
 
Clearing the end of Roll 63 - first up we have the Glassmakers arms, Granville Street and Holliday Street taken in 1961, leaded glass, sash windows and the Ansells sign, few little bits - faded wall on the left from an old sign , bricked up window with a little window on the side and the old street lamp

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Looking sorry for itself is the Shakespeare, Wheeler Street Aston 1961, never heard of Dares Bitter Beer, like the old ness of the building the large lamp, blocked up windows, a street sign across an old window and the old lamp on the corner
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yes there was a dares brewery i think steve..just trying to place where in wheeler st this pub was..maybe someone could look it up and provide map

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We now move to Rolls 64, which has 21 picture and list saying there are 28 picture - hopefully I can match up what I have got - also not all will be posted as they are over exposed !!


First photo and help called for my list says we have the entrance of the old Waterworks standing in Waterworks Street, however the street sign says Carlyle Road, the signs inside sat Van Hool - coach makers so is this Carlyle Works and if so are they the same place?
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We now have a general view down Waterworks Street , Harold Road onthe left and Perrotts Folly in the distance , the houses on the right remain but those on the corner of Harold Road have been replaced . Remember the old road signs it looks easy to miss and has no light over it either

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