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Your Motor Car And The Mot,

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Astonian

gone but not forgotten
HI ,
CAN Anybody Tell Me When The Goverment Introduced The MOT
For Your Motor Car , And I Think Its A Scandel ,
I Drive A Four by Four And Last Year When I Took My Car For An Mot
It Cost Me Sixtie Pounds , And Only Yesterday I Found Out It Was Worth The Paper It Was Written ON ,BEcause The Official Department Said It Was,nt On The Data Base ,So Technicaly It Was A Micky Mouse
And Had I,d Been Stopped By The Police During The Last 12 Months I Would Have Been Nicked And Fined , Any Way I Took iT To To Upton On Seven Yesterday And Got It Renewed , What A State This Country Is In With All The Fraudsters , I Blame The Goverment , Incidently .On The Subject Of Fraud ,
The Goverment As In couraged It , Afew Weeks Ago I Had To Get In Touch With The Pensions ,And I Was Told By An Official And Its Been Practiced For Some time That Any Correspondence You Make By Forms And Letter Or Documations That The Royal Mail Open Every Single Envelope Addressed
To The DHSS ,And Make Sure That You Are Applying To The Right Department And Its Addressed To The Right Department So Everybody
Can Access Your Personal Data Base And Use Your ID ,
sO You See Its The Goverment WhomAs Created A Oyster To The Fraudsters , Take Care , Best Wishes ASTONIAN ,
 
The MOT was introduced in 1960 for ten year old cars, I was a tester at that time and I can tell you it was a good thing, some of the stuff running on the road was in terrible condition, no brakes, steering joints falling off, lights (the ones that actually worked) were no more use than candles, rusty chassis held together with wire, one I tested had a wooden bedpost bolted in the chassis where it had rusted away, holes in the floor that a child could fall through. E.
 
Astonian, are sure this official told you the correct information about the Royal Mail opening DHSS correspondence. They are two separate entities and it would be a huge breach of security should this be happening.
 
I think someone is telling porkey's. My sister in law has worked for them in various departments for over 30 years and this would not be allowed. Mail is sorted in departments at the various offices although now most have closed and it all done in Great Barr. Staff also have to sign the official secrets act.

As for MOT's it is now computerised and all information is stored the individual garages enter the information and its sent on. It has been like this for some time now so I am unsure how you even got a certificate that wasn't computer checked.
 
You can still get a hand written MOT Wendy if the garage's or the DVLA's computer is down which can be quite often.

Fraudulent MOTs however are usually sold in pubs using pads stolen from garages but Astonian wouldn't have done that, would he? :biggrin: E.
 
Eric Gibson said:
The MOT was introduced in 1960 for ten year old cars, I was a tester at that time and I can tell you it was a good thing, some of the stuff running on the road was in terrible condition, no brakes, steering joints falling off, lights (the ones that actually worked) were no more use than candles, rusty chassis held together with wire, one I tested had a wooden bedpost bolted in the chassis where it had rusted away, holes in the floor that a child could fall through. E.
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hi Eric i have been in the motor trade since 1960 & yes you are right some of the cars about then where terrible i am still in the trade & seeing some of the cars presented still fills me with fear if the test was not in force rust not so much of a problem these days but with people doing so many miles now wear & tear especially tyres goes unoticed.(old mechanics rule ok) cheers al.
 
A couple of days after the M1 opened (1957, was it?) I went with my dad to London. What really sticks in my mind was the number of cars broken down on the hard shoulder - not just the odd one or two, but literally dozens! A few miles driven at a speed their owners would otherwise never have contemplated did for those old bangers. My dad had a company car, which was well-maintained, but in those days when there was no speed limit he kept to a sensible speed. I think the advent of motorways was another reason for introducing the MoT - which at first was only a 10-year test.

A few years ago my car (also a company car) failed its MoT because a brake-light bulb had blown. I had a hell of a row with the garage - you'd have thought they could've just replaced the bulb, but no. They wanted to test it again and charge me for a re-test. I won the argument and cancelled my account with them.

Big Gee
 
Some garages just fail things as they want to earn more from the 'work' they do on the car afterwards. I've had headlight bulbs gone, even though I checked the car that morning, once had an exorbitant quote for brake hoses - when I said it was too much they said they could 'recondition' the old ones at a cheaper price. Once had a car fail for 'grease contamination of CV joint rubber boots' when I queried it the guy said "The grease will rot the rubber, it's not safe". I looked him in the eye and asked, "What's inside the boot then?" (knowing it was packed with grease to lubricate the CV joint) and he just said "Oh, yes...I'll write you out a pass then." Like you big gee, I never go back.
 
Let's be honest, Lloyd, in an age where very few people under the age of about 45 know the first thing about cars, the garages can con them blind.
There was a bloke where I work, aged about 35, and he honestly and seriously didn't know how to check the oil in his car! Whatever garage he used, they must've rubbed their hands with glee every time they saw him coming! We even showed him how to check the oil, but it seemed too much for him and he said he'd carry on letting the garage do it!

When I was young and skint, it was an absolute necessity to know a bit about cars, because I couldn't afford to pay a garage to fix them when they went wrong. Several times I had engines spread across the kitchen floor (we had no garage) while my mom went crackers. Trouble is these days cars are designed to make it virtually impossible to work on without a fully-equipped workshop.

Big Gee
 
i also remember cars blowing up when motorways first opened they just where not up to the task of sustained high speed & i think we all went a bit mad with the new open road! regarding garages & mot's some do try it on the bad ones are eventually found out by vosa (the mot people) especially now as its all done online & they can monitor their performance. some of us motor traders do try & do care
 
alan poole said:
i also remember cars blowing up when motorways first opened they just where not up to the task of sustained high speed & i think we all went a bit mad with the new open road! regarding garages & mot's some do try it on the bad ones are eventually found out by vosa (the mot people) especially now as its all done online & they can monitor their performance. some of us motor traders do try & do care
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I agree with you Alan my son has been an mot tester for years and will not do mine himself :( he dont get his hands dirty now :P he says if there was a problem the ministry would revoke his garages certificate and that means loss of revenue:)the other thing he says is that each mot tester has pet hates like brake pipe pitting or tyres so it is down to individual interpretation if you have any doubts about a failure or otherwise get in touch with VOSA:)
 
my pet hate is number plate letter spaces drastically altered to read what people imagine is realy cool (can of worms i know)
 
it is alf & also an mot fail the popular trick is to have a legal set of plates to swap for the mot & then put the illegal ones back on trouble is there doesnt seem to be enough police about on the roads to pick them up(another can of worms!)
 
Allanyou are right about a can of worms re number plates this is a link to specs https://www.personallyyours.co.uk/numberplates-info.htm and the police do impound a car if the number plate is not what it should be:) I have recovered several flagrant abuses of the lettering ...usually the traffic police caution the first time :)NUMBER PLATES FITTED AFTER 1 SEPTEMBER 2001
Number plates fitted after 1 September 2001 must display characters that meet the dimensions shown below.

Characters
Height 79mm
Width (except the figure 1 or letter l) 50mm
Stroke 14mm
Space between characters 11mm
Space between groups 33mm
Top, bottom and side margins (minimum) 11mm
Space between vertical lines 19mm
 
I have recently read, in our local Gazette, a driver took out his insurance with a local broker, he was caught in a police check on the M6, his broker had forgotten to put his details on the Database that the police use. He had his car confiscated and it cost him £300 to get his car back, his broker has told him he will try to get his money refunded. The mind boggles, do we have to chase up our Insurance companies to be sure our details have been registered on the database?
 
I have owned my car for 4 years. Last year I discovered (following a speed camera incident) that, despite the DVLA happily taking my money for tax, had not updated the database to show me as the Named Keeper.
 
after renewing my insurance a couple of years ago i also drove around for 10 months only to discover when i came to tax it online that no insurance was shown when i spoke to the broker they had forgot to register on the database with the new company could have been any where in the country & had the car impounded, & had to walk home:stressed::stressed::stressed:
 
lanks for info loyd due for renewal this month so i'll check it out after i've paid out my hard erned cash:)
 
Bernie D'Boult said:
I have owned my car for 4 years. Last year I discovered (following a speed camera incident) that, despite the DVLA happily taking my money for tax, had not updated the database to show me as the Named Keeper.
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Bernie That doesnt surprise me at all I have been with police on several occasions where in a routine ANPR check a driver is Stopped and has had his car for a couple of years or more and dvla still comes up with No Known Keeper :rolleyes:
 
Big Gee said:
A few years ago my car (also a company car) failed its MoT because a brake-light bulb had blown. I had a hell of a row with the garage - you'd have thought they could've just replaced the bulb, but no. They wanted to test it again and charge me for a re-test. I won the argument and cancelled my account with them.
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Rightly so, too - lamps, various fixtures and fittings qualify for a free retest within 24 hours even if the vehicle has left the testing station for repair, and if the garage does the repair work, even welding and the like qualifies for a free retest.
 
Its as if you have to shop around for MOT the same as a lot of other things, I think it was April when the offical price for MOT went up to £54.Our local garage , in Findern about three mile away was advertising in the paper, MOT any make £30.00, rang up Monday booked it 8.30 this
morning, picked it up at 12 noon, no problem! Done and dusted for another
year, all being well. You dont see many old cars on the roads nowadays, considering the economic state of the nation I think by and large we live in
a pretty effluent society, when you read past history or even think back a
few years we are far better off than ever people were a few years ago and yet
people seem full of anger and unhappiness so discontented with everything. bye Bernard67 Arnold
 
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