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William Marle of Alcester Street

Max Beran

proper brummie kid
Just wondering if anyone here has encountered William Marle or his brother Robert. In the 1860s they lived at 64 Alcester Street which look like it was on the opposite side of the road from where Rowton House was later built. William attended King Edwards School - I know this from an inscription dated February 1864 on the flyleaf of a book which I discovered in an antique shop. This book about metals and mining was presumably a prize for academic achievement, maybe chosen by himself or the school for its appropriateness to William's interest. At this time William would have been 16 and leaving school. His name then appears on a list of London University examinees in 1868 where he passed at Division1, the highest grade. This was by "Private Study" and taken at St Thomas School in Granville Street which was one of a large network of examination centres used by the University of London for external students. His brother, 9 years William's senior appears not to have passed the exams so William appeared to have been the bright one of the pair. It all seems such an interesting situation given the boy's home background within a solidly manufacturing part of town. There were considerable ructions at the time over issues like the make-up of KES' governors, building and finance with the City flexing its muscles.

I would be very grateful if anyone here could throw any light on this, for example if the Marle's were in business. A 1935 aerial photo suggests a house at that position by he track leading to the back of the Lombard Street Baptist chapel, perhaps slightly larger than others neighbours, but the 1899 OS map plots it as just one of a row. But for all I know Alcester Street may have been renumbered so I'm barking up the wrong tree.
 
hi max i take it you have got william on the 1871 census at 64 alcester street which on an older map is next to a sunday school william is a clerk in an office and undergraduate of london...his brother robert is a school master..as you say there could have been some renumbering hopefully someone can help with that

looks like william marr in 1880 in oxford and died in 1893 in devon...occ was reverend william marle clerk of holy orders...this is according to a family tree on ancestry which may or may not be accurate

lyn
 
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The 1873 Whites directory street section lists 64 Alcester St as Henry Marle, schoolmaster. Next to it is the British School with Henry Marle and Miss A Kempe as teachers.. In the names list Robert & Henry Marle are lisred at no 64 as schoolmasters. In the 1872 and 1876 post Office directory no Marle or the British School or no 64 are listed. But further down the road there is in both cases the Lombard St Baptist School listed. This is not mentioned in Alcester st in the 1873 Whites directory. Strange.. it is not necessarily strange that the names do not appear in the PO directiries, as Whites directories tend to be more comprehensive. . But school differences are a bit more surprising
 
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The 1861 corporation directory lists Robert Marle as: Academy 10 Cambridge st. Residence 26 St Mary's Row. Yet the 1862 corporation directory just lists him as a clerk in Gooch st
 
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One of the original questions was: for example if the Marle's were in business.

I am not sure what Robert snr does for his money:
On the 1851 census it says
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on 1861 census it says
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in 1877 on Samuel (another son) marriage
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in 1878 on Robert jnr's marriage cert
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In 1880 on William's marriage it simply says "gentleman"
 
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A bit of digging reveals a "scripture reader" is a lay minister.
They would take bible classes and run Sunday schools but weren't ordained.
thanks jan i wondered if thats what it meant and that fits with a sunday school being next door to no 6 alcester street...lets hope max logs back in to read all of the above info
 
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