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Where is This ? Pubs #3
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Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
As I can see you are struggling with this one, which I thought might be the case. Though there are people on this forum I did think might recognise it. I will give a little clue, just next to this pub and in between a shop called Greens was a very steep terrace known locally as "The Glory Hole" You can just see the entrance on the right of the photo next to the public loo.
Phil
Phil
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
You see Albion it was easy wasn't it?
I remember having a pint in here when I was aboutb 15. It was awful and I took it back, the gaffer said to me "you are only a kid and too young to drink anyway so what do you know about beer" I replied "I know enough to tell when a pint is no good". He then threw me out not because I complained about the pint (so he said) but because I was too young. Amazing how I must have got younger looking over a few minutes.
Phil
I remember having a pint in here when I was aboutb 15. It was awful and I took it back, the gaffer said to me "you are only a kid and too young to drink anyway so what do you know about beer" I replied "I know enough to tell when a pint is no good". He then threw me out not because I complained about the pint (so he said) but because I was too young. Amazing how I must have got younger looking over a few minutes.
Phil
dek carr
gone but not forgotten
Phil The Glory Hole dosen,t do much for me and yet the front of the pub does (maybe i,ve been looking at the photo for to long) it sounds as it could be by a bomb crater. I can,t seem to lean towards the Duddeston area and as in your younger years you live in Balsall Heath i,m thinking the Higate area, got to start somewhere. Dek
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Dek
There is some argument to where exactly the Glory Hole was, some say is was Pearson St that ran from Wenman St to Alliance Place which in turn ran down to Mary St. Others like myself say it was the steep sloping terrace that ran down between the Crown & Greens shop which I think was called Wenman Terrace. It was one of the steepest terraces I ever know and it took some getting back up. Quite why it was given the name the Glory Hole is a mystery to me.
You are quite right about me spending my younger hears in Balsall Heath, after I returned from Scotland I was there until I was about 5 or 6 and I returned off and on throughout my teenage years. My grandparents lived there until they were moved out in the late 70's under the clearance schemes. Why I will never know, they had a wonderful old house, it certainly didn't need demolishing and replacing with the poorly constructed and planned rubbish that replaced it.
Phil
There is some argument to where exactly the Glory Hole was, some say is was Pearson St that ran from Wenman St to Alliance Place which in turn ran down to Mary St. Others like myself say it was the steep sloping terrace that ran down between the Crown & Greens shop which I think was called Wenman Terrace. It was one of the steepest terraces I ever know and it took some getting back up. Quite why it was given the name the Glory Hole is a mystery to me.
You are quite right about me spending my younger hears in Balsall Heath, after I returned from Scotland I was there until I was about 5 or 6 and I returned off and on throughout my teenage years. My grandparents lived there until they were moved out in the late 70's under the clearance schemes. Why I will never know, they had a wonderful old house, it certainly didn't need demolishing and replacing with the poorly constructed and planned rubbish that replaced it.
Phil
Alf
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Phil Wenman Street had a Pub called Queen just that in 1871
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Albion
I had several friends who lived in those maisonettes, my grandparents only lived a couple of doors away from where the maisonettes started in Vincent St. They were built on the site of St Paul's School that was bombed out during the war. A school that my grandfather & Percy Shurmer attended many years previous to that.
In the 70's it would have been a haven for fly tippers as that is when the area was being demolished. I were down that way a couple of years back and I didn't like what I saw very much. I think the maisonettes are the only part of Vincent St that is left.
Phil
I had several friends who lived in those maisonettes, my grandparents only lived a couple of doors away from where the maisonettes started in Vincent St. They were built on the site of St Paul's School that was bombed out during the war. A school that my grandfather & Percy Shurmer attended many years previous to that.
In the 70's it would have been a haven for fly tippers as that is when the area was being demolished. I were down that way a couple of years back and I didn't like what I saw very much. I think the maisonettes are the only part of Vincent St that is left.
Phil
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Alf
I don't follow, are you saying that there was a pub called "The Queen" in Wenman St in 1871. If so I had never heard of it the only other licenced premises that I knew on Wenman St were two off sales outdoors. One of those closed down. I can't think where another pub could have been unless it was one of the bombed sites that I never saw a building on. Do you know where it was located?
Phil
Alf
it is not shown on the 1889 map, though that is much later. The only licensed premises in the 1872 directory are two beer retailers, either of which could be it (or an off licence), but no numbers are given for that year, so not clear exactly where they were.
it is not shown on the 1889 map, though that is much later. The only licensed premises in the 1872 directory are two beer retailers, either of which could be it (or an off licence), but no numbers are given for that year, so not clear exactly where they were.