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Wheeler's Farm

congratultions mike you have cracked the code again so it appears to be an small holding like the evershm in those go by gone days a farm house building with a pleck and what one would refere back in those ages a little yard it was the same as green farm in cow honeybourne a little pleck of ground ajoining and a front garden with a cow shed and they called it a farm well done so we can gain further info on this family for
Our friend best wishes , i was in mind to contact my close friend bryan from the kings heath society as he as hundreds of info on the kings heth he was a moderator for them for donkeys years and is welll known great news best wishes Alan Astonian;;;;;;
 
I haven't got very far in a census search - the plot of land has no name and once the Wheeler family left is hard to trace. I will continue to see if I can find any addresses in Wheeler's Lane but have a feeling it may be down as Alcester Lane's end (as in 1841) and so it is a guess which property it is. I tried tracing William (no joy for certain so far), Esther (found her as a servant in 1851 - Esta and also a possible marriage), Joseph - I think I have him as a zinc worker in 1851, '61 and '71 + a marriage. They all seem to have left the area when Catharine died - possible death in 1842.
 
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pjmburns your research on the family mostly mirrors my own. I found a burial for a William Wheeler in Kings Norton in 1867 that seems to fit?

I wonder what happened to Thomas though - why he wasn't on the 1841 census (he had a profession on Joseph's marriage certificate; I assume it would have said deceased if he were dead..?).
 
I don't think early marriage certs always record "deceased". It may well be he had died by then. If William didn't die until 1867 he ought to be on '51 and '61 censuses. Also what happened to the land?
 
The last post reminded me to ask a question which may need moving to another thread but - what's the thinking on the forum for pronunciation of 'messuage'. I've never spoken the word but have a certain way of reading it. Listening to some sites it's 'messwidge' and others 'mess-wage'. Anglo-French origin apparently, first noticed in England in 14thC.
 
Thanks Janice, I've always 'said' it with a slightly French-Brummie access as 'mess-yu-arge'. Messwidge is more the sort of thing that they would have said in past times.
 
Just been reading a couple of booklets by John Morris Jones (After whom the John Morris Jones Walkway opposite Sarehole Mill is named. One time head of George Dixon Junior School. He wrote about the history of South Birmingham especially Yardley where Holly Bank Farm was situated but not, as far as I know, in detail about King's Norton where the Wheeler land was.)
This is what he had to say about the land just outside Yardley Boundary; I don't know where he got the info about the poacher. I will continue to dig for info.
 

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Thanks! So presumably the land was sold to Thomas Hadley, or whoever was at Hollybank Farm...

Could you point me to the source where you found out about the auction?
 
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It was here https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/ You need an account - it is free to register and search + a few free pages but then you need to subscribe to read articles. I will see if I can find out who bought the land.
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I'm still busily researching this, but in a year have made little significant progress. I've found Wheeler's Lane named as such on the 1832 os map; I'd like to get further back.

Did you manage to find out what happened to the land after auction?

Also how do I get hold of tithe maps for the area? I'm also researching an area of King's Heath, so tithe maps could be useful here too.

Thanks
 
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