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I have just had a chat with our kid and he reckons the Mrs Lamb we knew lived in Tower Road as he remembers visiting wit h our Nan Mrs Moore came out of Clifton road she was named Sarah Ann Tibbins I have a bible that she owned dated October 11th 1888 she was aged 12 at that time, which makes it 118 years since that date
do you have any more info on the Lambs ?
 
There is only one Lamb left of the older generation thats My cousin ALBERT HE IS NOW IN HIS 80S, I will try to contact him and ask. He is mrs Lambs oldest son.
 
John, re your Reply 30 Mrs lamb would have lived in Tower Rd at on time, as My Mom along with her two sisters Edith & Hilda all lived at Back of 155 Tower RD,before the war.
Edith was the elder of the sister born 1898 Nee WOOLLEY.
ASTON
 
the pub was the white swan,corner of victoria road and whitehead road,terrible pub the last few years ,being redeveloped as some nhs building but cannot see what it will be yet,its pretty awfull the road is now,
can the lads remember those awful blue trunks you had to hire if you hadnt your own.just passed bevington rd there is now a health centre,a social club and a mosque,then the roundabout over the expressway
 
I am posting two Pics one of Albert Lamb My Cousin (now our eldest family member )when he was in the Salvation Army Band at Victoria Road Salvation Army Hall.The other is of My Mom (in her Salvation Army Uniform) with her second sister Hilda & her husband Jim Matthews,the little girl is My cousin Hilda Lamb Albert's sister .
Any one remember them?
 
John this is My Aunt Edith she lived at 16 UPPER THOMAS ST,but her Mom & Dad lived in Tower Rd back of 155 up-to to 2nd WW when it was bombed,then Nan & Grandad moved to 173 next to HelenKnox Mission Hall.
Note in REPLY 29 I incorrectly stated my Aunts house Number No 19 it should have been No16.
Do you recall her? (She was also the Post Misstress for many years at the Waterworks Post Office on the Lichfield Rd)
 
Hi,
Where did the photo's go ??????
Also the reply I sent to this site.

Tat Tar June.
 
Hi Rod,

Thanks for telling me where the photo's had gone.
I still like the old place best as I remember it.

Tat Tar June.
 
I use to live in Victoria Road :) six ways end . Can anyone remember the likkle paper shop just down from the indian shop on the corner
of Rifle Crescent , Im quite sure the likkle old man who run it was murdered in his shop around 1967-68ish cant think of his name but think it was Alf or Albert , I was his paper boy at the time :(
ragga :)
 
Hi Ragga, :)

I do remember the paper shop on the corner
of Rifle Crescent as I used to go out with a chap
that lived in the Crescent many years ago now.
Also there was a murder but the old brain box just
cant remember who it was.
But I bet some one will come on here and give you the
answer.

Tat Tar June. :)
 
HI RAGGA AND JUNE,
It quite surprising  on this site , because you never know whom you are speaking to, and whom are your old neibours, especialy when they don't speak to you and then years later you get to find out when talking to  folk at some time , you suddenly stop and say ,wo . we used to be neibours,we lived 6 doors from the old man Albert ,on the morning in question  I went around to the shop at 7 am  to get  some milk  for my tea  as our dozzie milkman had'nt turned up only find there was a copper on the door ,he said sorry son  there been an incident ,then we found out that he had been murdured,he was a nice old guy  old in age , and disabled .and as far as i know no one has ever been found and charged with his murderd   even today
 I have a brother whom lives in those posh flats on millionaire  row over looking the canals by the ICC Centre, and from time to time ,when I see him we talk about the old times, and he says do  you remember when we was kids and Aston ,and of course the old man at the shop ,and we say it funny no -one as ever come to book for his murder.then Mr Patel and his family moved in ,and opened the Grocery shop they was educated posh asians , and he also opened a travel agents on the Lozells rd  by Wheeler st , and then he went on to open a resturant on Stratford road  by Stoney Lane  Sparkbrook ,
  I remember Mr Patel's family  because one day when i was a smoker in those days , I went to his shop when he was'nt there and asked for some cigg,s and the ladies did'nt understand and she came out of  the back of the shop from the living area with five rolled leafs , which I presumed that his, the sort they smoked and not to sell to the customers , me and my younger brother went back for more , but by then Mr Patel  had retured to the shop , he gave us the normal english cigg, and before that we lived down the road on the corner of Upper Thomas St at 309 , which was right on the corner of Victoria road , and just along from the swimming bath , and our house used to be the old bread shop  penny drip cakes ,
 une , Ragg , i would certainly would like to hear if some -one charged with Alberts murder all I can say to you both it,s a small world .                  Astonian ,;;;
 
Hi Astonian & Ragga,

How right you are about it being a small world.
I often used to think about all the friends I had
in Birmingham and then lost touch with.
Then I got with it and got my self a computer.
My granddaughter showed me how to work it
and I have never looked back.
Found loads of my old friends now and have
even got to gether with some of them.

Last time I was in Birmingham was about 6 years and
I was driving along the Lozells Rd and when I got to Six Ways
I got lost. How things have changed.

Tat Tar June. ;)
 
June Moorby said:
Hi Ragga, :)

I do remember the paper shop on the corner
of Rifle Crescent as I used to go out with a chap
that lived in the Crescent many years ago now.
Also there was a murder but the old brain box just
cant remember who it was.
But I bet some one will come on here and give you the
answer.

Tat Tar June. :)
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June, My wife would like to know the name of the chap you went out with.(If you can remember it!!)
She lived at No.9 Rifle Crescent up 'till 1959 (she then married a handsome and sofisticated chap who came from the posh part of Lozells!!) :smitten:
Was it in the same era? 
Her maiden name was McDermott.
She remembers the shop on the corner as a grocery/provisions store.    O0

Thanks.
 
Hello again,

I used to go out with John Lerwill at number
20 Rifle Crescent, see I can still remember.

Now you say you came from the posh part of
Lozells, I cant remember any places like that. ;D
So please tell me where the posh bits are laughter.

Tat Tar June.
 
6 Doors away ASTONIAN  :-\ I was number 43 Victoria road.
                                           Ragga  :)
 
Thanks for your reply, June.

Glad to see you are retaining your memory  O0  Wish I was     :idiot2:
We cannot recall the Lerwill family, but Jean admits she did not know everyone in the Crescent, even though in was not very long.

Re the posh part of Lozells....
We moved from 8/59 Unett St. in 1937 (I was 5 y.o.)
223 Burbury St was situated at the top, near Lozells Rd.
We had our own front door on to the street.
We had our own small garden.
We had our own toilet.(even though it was still outside)
We had seperate bedrooms.
Electric was installed soon after we moved in.
Now to me, that was POSH !!     O0

PS. Its still there, but you wouldn't want to see it now. :tickedoff:
 
Hi Ray
;)
I am back with you. Well I would not call it posh
but there you go each to his own laughter.
I was just round the corner from you Carpenters Rd.
Like you we got cold in the winter going out to the loo.
When I went into the Lozells 6 years ago all the houses in Carpenters and  Burbury Street were still standing, and I think they are still now.

Tat Tar   June.
 
Ray,

P.S Glad to see you are a VILLA Fan.
Happy hours I spent down at the grounds
with my dad.

Tat Tar again June.
 
hi ragga ,
so you lived at 43.and we was 47. cor--blimey , we must have spoken
to each other surely at one point if only to say good mornin ,
we had that dammed street light right out side our front door
the guy next to us was an air plane pilot . bit snootie,
did you ever learn or should i say . did you ever learn -hear
of anybody beeing appreending for the murder of the old man at the shop .
i was telling our kid today about it .
best wishes astonian ,;;
 
Hi Astonian , We lived @ 43 from 1964 to 1970 , Did the airline pilot live in that big
house at the rear of you ?? Our other neighbour at 41 was a Miss White
a old lady who live there all her life , I remember her dying there at
some point but cant remember which year , as to the incident to the
paper shop , i cant recall any arrests made , the shop just stood empty
i cant remember wether it opened as a shop again , do we have any retired
policemen who come here , maybe they can do a research .
regards Ragga :)
 
HI RAGGA ,
               YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE BIG HOUSE IIMMEDIATELY YOUR HOUSE, YOU HAVE GOT A GOOD MEMORY
             It was a big white house, and a big garden, with a big well lawn.
             When the council started to clear us all out , they was the first to go .                 
             then the other old lady at the bottom of the entry on our left
              of our entry,  which  I think was 45, she died as well .
             when we looked into the piolets house it was posh
              with fancy wallpaper,
             with regards to the crime scene, i never heard any body being
             caught for it,
              also i do believe we have a few retired detectives  on the forum
             whom  might just put us right on the subject
             regardig info; as to wether anybody was appre-ended for the death
             of albert,  inspector wil l , may know .
             
 
Sorry Astonian,
In 1967 and that period either side, I was involved in matters in the surrounding counties and not solely to Brum, so it was one murder I missed.
After forty years and an absence of some nigh on thirty years I am afraid I do not have the means of researching it.
Perhaps someone, living locally, may be able to check the old newspapers of the time.
Will.
 
:angel: Hi Ray I went to school in Perry Common Rd with a kid named Daved Mc Dermott, he like me had a visual impearment.
Would he be any relation to your wife?
Her maiden name was McDermott.
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HI WILL
HOPING YOU ARE KEEPING WELL, I HAVENT SEEN YOU ON THE FORUM MUCH LATELY , I KNOW WE HAVE GOT AFEW RETIRED OFFICIERS
ON THE FORUM , AND YOU WAS MY IST PERSON ,TO SPRING TO
MY MIND , THINKING ABOUT IT .
THE OFFICIERS COULD HAVE COME FROM THREE STATIONS,
EITHER VICTORIA RD . CANTERBURY RD. KEYON ST, OR THE STEEL HOUSE LANE.
,
THANKS FOR TELLING US .,THAT YOU COULD NOT CONFIRM .
MAY BE SOME-ONE WILL CROSS CHECK THE OLD CUTTING .
BEST WISHES ASTONIAN.
 
Hi Astonian :) do you remember over the road from us there was a Jamaican home where during the summer
Months they use to have Blue-beat partys :2funny: as a young lad at the time I use to admire all the
big cars what use to turn up , Zodiac`s , Zephra`s was my favorites :o and there was a cafe over
the road just before the White Swan and by the greengrocer they use to play music , i think it
run by Indians and played a mix of music in there :) Shame will cant come up with anything regarding
the incident at the papershop.
regards Ragga :)
 
HI ragga.how are you keeping mate,?.
I Certainly remember the west indian house across the road ,
the big fat guy who lived there was named tucker , a well known dj .
with his mom .they was always having a good old blues party. in the end they packed up and went back
TO the west INDIE,S to live , those cars were fantastic , somthink out of the classic movies yeh,
i also remember the fruit shop, we got our vegies from there ,
i was,nt stuck on the cafe , never went in .
had afew bevies in the swan in the back lounge thou .
YEH/ its a shame about will not coming up with infor ; still we still have for of our tecs
on the forum , sombdy will eventualy will tell us,
Incidently i had a word with one of my young brothers and he was a paper boy
for albert around that time , today .
and he told me today that the cops had asked him about alb;;
he did tell me at the time , he forgot to tell the cops ,
that he did have a lodger living with him , and that he worked at birds custard ,
any way rag; we will leave it to som body else , and may be we will
find out at some stage , speak to you soon best wishes astonian ,;;
 
Found this on the BBC web site

Another mysterious sighting happened on Victoria Road in Aston on September 28th 1971. Two ladies, Mrs Bagley and Mrs Heath, were waiting for their bus at quarter past eight in the morning when they spotted a woman dressed in "a green frilly gown," standing in the middle of the road. Both witnesses watched in horror as their bus approached the woman. However, when it was only a few feet away from the mysterious phantom, the green lady vanished.
Months later, at half past nine in the evening, Mrs McFarlane was walking in exactly the same area of Aston when she was shocked to see a woman in a "yellowish green dress," suddenly appear at the kerbside. She hurried across the road and disappeared as she reached the pavement on the other side.

The ghost may be that of an usherette from the Aston Cross Cinema who was killed whilst crossing the road some years ago.

Colin
 
Colin B said:
Found this on the BBC web site

Another mysterious sighting happened on Victoria Road in Aston on September 28th 1971. Two ladies, Mrs Bagley and Mrs Heath, were waiting for their bus at quarter past eight in the morning when they spotted a woman dressed in "a green frilly gown," standing in the middle of the road. Both witnesses watched in horror as their bus approached the woman. However, when it was only a few feet away from the mysterious phantom, the green lady vanished.
Months later, at half past nine in the evening, Mrs McFarlane was walking in exactly the same area of Aston when she was shocked to see a woman in a "yellowish green dress," suddenly appear at the kerbside. She hurried across the road and disappeared as she reached the pavement on the other side.

The ghost may be that of an usherette from the Aston Cross Cinema who was killed whilst crossing the road some years ago.

Colin
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That would be about the time when there was a lot of cannabis smoke in the air. E.
 
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