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Sutton Park History

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hi folks we have allowed quite a few off topic posts since post 1657 which are not really to do with sutton park itself...we do like to give a bit of leeway if loosely connected but if we can now stick to the thread title that would be great..

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John L said:
I wonder do Chelmsley Wood residents also still refer to themselves as living in Birmingham, rather than in Solihull? They became part of Solihull, rather than part of Birmingham during the 70s, when Sutton Coldfield was also swallowed up by Birmingham. I guess it may depend on how long you have lived in each location and what it was known as, when you first began living there.
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I remember that . Yes true if you like where you live should not bother you .
 
Christmas Day swimmers at the park this year (rather them than me;) especially these days!):

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I lived just outside Sutton park, boldmere gate, in stone house road. It was free to enter if you lived in Sutton, all others had to pay. There were gate keepers at gates to take entrance money and sell park maps. It was possible to drive from boldmere to streetly . The park was well maintained. I was a member of SCRCMAC and flew radio controlled model aircraft. It unfortunately all started to go wrong when Birmingham took over the park, I think it became free admission. Was this when Sutton got a Birmingham post code? The roads had to be blocked because people started to use the park as short cuts and ignoring speed limit .
 
On the Thread for the River Tame there is an interactive map for 2021 showing sewage discharge into rivers and tributaries. There is an entry as seen below…

Bridle Lane Combined Sewer Overflow (Severn Trent Water)…In 2021, this sewer storm overflow spilled 20 times for a total of 5 hours, discharging into the Trib Of Longmoor Pool.

Looking further there seems to be a problem (July 2022)….

“Triathletes competing at the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham this weekend are "at risk of swimming in raw sewage", the Liberal Democrats have warned. Data published by the Environment Agency, indicates that raw sewage has routinely been dumped into a tributary of Longmoor Pool in Sutton Park, the party said, which is connected to where the athletes will swim, while a monitor which is supposed to record sewage dumps into Wyndley Pool has not been operational for long periods of time.”

uk.news.yahoo.com

Commonwealth Games triathletes ‘at risk of swimming in raw sewage’

‘They could be swimming in raw sewage on their way to winning a medal’, Liberal Democrat analysis suggests
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It's all down to cash and lax rules as far as I can tell. The water companies are owned by shareholders who only care about profits (which are huge). It's got so bad that I won't eat river fish any more. The companies have permission to discharge their overflow tanks in heavy rain but many haven't increased the size of their tanks to allow for increase in population and seem to do it all the time. The rivers are full of pesticides, factory waste, sewage, baby wipes and nappies, sanitary products etc. to mention but a few. Poor fish and swimmers. In the south of England we have the only chalk streams in the world and these are also badly affected.

Rant over for the time being and back to Sutton Park. The Friends of Sutton Park organise several walks a year and various talks. Have a look at their website: http://fospa.org.uk/archaeology-walks-walking-time/ for more information.
 
paul stacey said:
I can't speak for Birmingham, but our water authority was brought out a few years ago, by a Spanish company, and since then our costs have quadrupled??
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Certainly not defending your situation but water/sewage seem to have become very expensive everywhere. When bought our first house albeit 50 plus years ago the water bill was a very small amount, not even really a budgetary item and now it is very real on a monthly basis. I understand inflation but!!!
 
It may be called The Driffold now. This starts opposite Maney Hill Road and turns left into Wyndley Lane. The straight route is via Birmingham Road into Manor Hill. Not sure that would be classed as Maney though. Perhaps Dog Lane didn't sound posh enough for the residents! There are some very large (nice) houses up there.
 
Lady Penelope said:
It may be called The Driffold now. This starts opposite Maney Hill Road and turns left into Wyndley Lane. The straight route is via Birmingham Road into Manor Hill. Not sure that would be classed as Maney though. Perhaps Dog Lane didn't sound posh enough for the residents! There are some very large (nice) houses up there.
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I lived at 3 Driffold Cottages, Maney in the early 1960s. I don't remember a Dog Lane leading to the park.
 
Thanks everyone. I think this one will remain a mystery. The 'Dog in the Hole' which once stood at lower Parade was some way away from Wyndley Lane.

The Secretary of the History Group has spent some time on this this afternoon but has come to the conclusion that it is referring to Wyndley Lane and may have been referred to by locals as such. People had a habit of attaching nicknames to places didn't they?
 
Lady Penelope said:
Thanks everyone. I think this one will remain a mystery. The 'Dog in the Hole' which once stood at lower Parade was some way away from Wyndley Lane.

The Secretary of the History Group has spent some time on this this afternoon but has come to the conclusion that it is referring to Wyndley Lane and may have been referred to by locals as such. People had a habit of attaching nicknames to places didn't they?
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Lady P, this then begs the question as to whether the Old Dog Inn became the Dog in the Hole around 1896 ?

(Further info…The Old Dog, when it changed hands in 1889, was said to be an old-established Inn)
 
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Pedro, I'm pretty sure they are one in the same but when the pub changed names I really don't know at this stage. I will have a good look through all my records and see what I can find. Thanks for your input.
 
With ref. to pictures of Bracebridge Cottage in post #1456. Just came across someone living at Bracebridge Pool Cottage in the 1840s, would it be the same cottage?
 
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