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Soho Hill

hi judy im afraid the bad weather stopped me going out with my camera today but i wont foret that photo you want..will get is asap for you

lyn
 
No worries Lyn. It's been much the same down here in Devon. There is no rush. I appreciate you taking the trouble to go an take a photo when you can.

Judy
 
Great photo's Lynn. These may be of great help to Brian George at the Pen Room. He has been trying to find a photo of 61 Soho Hill also known as Watt Place. This was the home of famous pen maker John Sheldon.

I will have to look at them on Michael's computer as I can't open thumbnails on mine. I can't post any pictures either, I need to get my computer looked at!! :(
 
soho hill entire map.jpgwend post 80 pic 2 we think shows no 61...mike has been doing some research on that photo for me to try and find out the numbering and going by the curvature of the steps and consulting the maps we both agree that his findings are correct...here is mike map showing nos 63 to 77 if you look at the photo i think no 61 would be the lighter coloured building there is a car outside it...will ask mike to see if he can confirm this...brian is most welcome to the photo
 
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Lyn

Perhaps this photo may be of some help in your search as I would imagine number 61 Soho Hill would be on it also.
 

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Yes Phil, its got the same lampost on it, though the lamp bit looks a bit different. Here it looks like only the left hand building (no 59)is light coloured, whereas in the earlier one 59 & 61 were light coloured.
 
soho hill 7.jpgSOHO HILL AND OTHERS 027.JPGhi phil i think you are right...lampost is the same expect for the globe on top which can change over the years..would say your pic was about 1920s and mine was taken in the 50s...i think yours shows the roebuck pub on the right with the junction of hamstead road..very similar shot to this one expect yours is a longer shot showing the houses on the left and the spired building on the right i think could be soho hill chapel..
 
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SOHO HILL AND OTHERS 025 (1) with numbering  61,59.jpghere you go wend its as i thought no 61 is on that photo and it is the lighter coloured building...here it is again with numbers marked...please pass it onto brian at the pen museum and many thanks to mike for helping us out..
 
Wow he will be thrilled. I will email the info to him Thank you both. What a team :)
 
happy to help wend and just for clarification those houses are just before the richmond road junction...it great to see some of the lower end of soho hill...my dads aunt was at no 62 in the late 30s...like i always say they are out there somewhere if you look hard enough...

lyn
 
phil i forgot to say thanks for the photo you posted...it was a new one for me..

cheers
 
I have managed to forward the photo's and info to Brian George he is really pleased. He has done some research himself but said the photo's were great. He will be at the History Fair at Trefoil House on Sunday. He asked me to thank all who helped with this especially Mike and Lyn.
 
just when you think they dont get any better up pops another one...i think this is a real cracker..

lyn
 

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Great photo Lyn. Not much left of those shops. The photo would be pre-1912 as there's no sign of the Electro Plate Works (built 1912) further down the Hill. Notice the man balancing above the shop front. His step ladders are too short so he must have climbed out from one of the windows. The corner shop is burnt out now- well it was on Streetview.

Judy, it's the junction of Hamstead Road, Wretham Road and Soho Hill. Used to frequently pass this on the 29a/29 bus. Viv.
 

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I wondered whether it was that junction Viv, but as I couldn't see Wretham Road I thought the photo might be taken from further down Soho Hill. As a schoolgirl, we used to do our PE lessons in St Francis' Hall in Wretham Road and I remember it being close to the corner of Hamstead Road, and I couldn't see this road in Lyn's photo.

Judy
 
hi judy yes viv is right i had already figured out the extact location before posting the photo..i am down that way quite often..

the shop on the left corner saying southall pure is on the corner of wretham road and hamstead road and is at the moment undergoing restoration as it has been in sorry state for years now..all the houses you see in wretham road are still there including the mission hall which is now being used a some sort of warehouse..the two men standing with the dog are outside the roebuck pub (still there) which is on the corner of soho hill and hamstead road...everything from the shop on the right corner down has long gone including the soho hill congregational chapel which was replaced new housing although they did retain the pillars to the entrance of the church which are now the entrance to the new housing block..
 
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Blimey Lyn those two men with the dog are still there! Probably debating who's paying for the next round of drinks. Viv.
 
lol viv..i shall be going down that way again on weds will take an up to date photo...not sure if this pic is already on but just in case its of the congregational chapel soho hill...note the pillars to the entrance which as i say have been retained in situ to the entrance of the new housing block..nice touch.. just a shame the church is not there as well..

lyn
 

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Many thanks Lyn and Viv for the confirmation of the position of photo #113. I lived about 5 minute's walk from Hamstead Road and walked around this junction regularly but I was unsure of quite where it was. I loved the photo.

Judy
 
hi carol...im afraid thats not the same spot..your pic was taken further up where soho hill meets with villa road...smashing photo..

lyn x
 
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As a memory test (educational) can we start up a new thread tracking down adverts in images posted? Here's the one on the corner of Wretham Road. Not so sure if situating this design at this location is a good idea in likely causing collisions at road junctions...
 
Hi Carolina
Nice picture of the top of villa road facing st Michaels hill and I would have said the photographer is standing across the road on the very corner
Of st Michaels hill and behind them there wouldd a been a Victorian house and I would also say the gentleman closest was a police officier
Standing on the very close to the kerb waiting for the horse and carriage to turn on to Soho road
You may be aware at some point there was two churches been built on that very corner
Obviously saint Michaels was the first to be built but I cannot say the other one almost if facing st Michaels
In later years that corner shop had change hands and obvisiouly given the age of that photo which is cracking in deed
Some of those little house you see way back down the road looked small house but inside they was quite large and many rooms
In years gone bye I had the pleasure of going in, because my sister in law met a guy whom lived in them whom owned a business in Bacchus rd
Next to the pub and many years later in the sixties an old friend of mine took up lodging in there when is father died
And the council evicted him from a back house in Heath Street mind you it was very grottie unihabittle
But some one took his case on at the council and rehoused him to staple lodge road when it was nice and quite
I would say your picture was probaly some time in the 1800/ early 1900,s
My mother was sent to a private school around that neck of the woods way back in the 1900s I never learnt the name of it
But it was definitely a private school for girls she never ever went to a state council school in her life
Some where in the Hampstead road area the big houses her grand father used to have a large house she used to tell me
With those bells on the wall within the house
I was very familiar with Ha dsworth myself I used to be a milk man around that area in my younger days for midland counties milk
Covering most of hands worth and the surrounding street far back as grove lane and used to finish my round and sort my crates out
In order for the lads back at moland street for the checkers and as also I worked down st Michaels hill
There was the Birmingham bottle exchange as a nipper which was part of Birmingham history it was owned by a solicitor
And that exchanged covered the whole of the west midland they had six huge lorries out every day
As soon as I seen your picture I reckonised it straight away and the shop and as I mentioniond the other day about Soho red and our friend
Mentioniod the late night chippie about three shops from that there was the chip shop I had in mind but happily is shop he mentioned was the one
And not mind I used to go regular to the continental club just yards from where the photographer had taken that pic,
The conti was converted into a basement club of the building and the music they was playing was very any for today's ears
Have a nice day Astonian,,,, Alan,,,,,
 
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As a memory test (educational) can we start up a new thread tracking down adverts in images posted? Here's the one on the corner of Wretham Road. Not so sure if situating this design at this location is a good idea in likely causing collisions at road junctions...

hi richie i dont see why not...why dont you start a thread..give it a title and start posting some old photos with adverts on them im sure they will bring back memories and be of interest.

all the best

lyn
 
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