Thank you. I can get the digital version in the US.Yes Richard
Great story Paul, one that I believe is echoed by many of us! Reading your words, I realized how inexpensive a hobby it was for us. For me it was the 29 bus and everything else you suggest. My other thrill was saving to get the new Ian Allen spotters book, sometimes for Christmas.Snow hill, was totally synonymous, with my whole life , growing up in Birmingham, as child with my dear dad, taking me regularly to visit the trains, and visiting other parts of the Midlands. To train watching, as a boy and youth, left Birmingham to go into the army from there, and catching the light blue bus to my Nans in handsworth from just outside, all my young life, the hot chestnut man at the entrance in winter, hot potatoes to. Snow Hill was, and is Birmingham to me, in my memories, and like alot of my cherished places in that memory nearly all gone .
I worked at Tyseley MPD as a fireman for a spell after I returned from Old Oak Common. I lived in the hostel just above the depot there. I made great pals with the fireman in next door cabin who has since passed away. He was in No 4 link at Old Oak which was the North road link working to Snow Hill, Wolverhampton and Shrewsbury. It was always Kings and Castles for him for me it was panniers every day unless it was a spell at Ranelagh Bridge shovelling coal forward on a holiday Saturday on engines being turned for their return journey. When I returned to Tyseley I kept in touch with my friend and met him a couple of times at Snow Hill and joined him on the footplate to Low level and once through to Shrewsbury and return. I hopped off at Snow Hill. The return Trip to Shrewsbury totalled 304 miles for him. The longest daily turn on the Western Region. He went back to Cardiff eventually to be a driver at Canton depot. When Steam was on the way out Tyseley men would work the Inter City up to London and return with the 8.10 to Snow Hill 220 miles. In my link at Tyseley we would relieve the 6.10 pm ex Paddington at Snow Hill and work to Low level. I fired most of the Stafford Road Kings even if it was only for a short distance. Great times. I have lived abroad in Europe since 1997 now 27 years and I still remember my loco spotting days and Railway years like yesterday. Nostalgia aaahhh.Kings were regular motive power for the down Cambrian Coast Express from the 1957 Summer timetable.
Initially they worked only as far as Wolverhampton but from Summer 1958 were permitted
through to Shrewsbury.
The up working was usually handled by a castle with the King being diagrammed for a return
Birkenhead-Paddington working coming on at Shrewsbury.
Perhaps Old Oak Common borrowed 6026 for the day if one of their regular engines wasn't available.
Great story & yes nostalgic!I worked at Tyseley MPD as a fireman for a spell after I returned from Old Oak Common. I lived in the hostel just above the depot there. I made great pals with the fireman in next door cabin who has since passed away. He was in No 4 link at Old Oak which was the North road link working to Snow Hill, Wolverhampton and Shrewsbury. It was always Kings and Castles for him for me it was panniers every day unless it was a spell at Ranelagh Bridge shovelling coal forward on a holiday Saturday on engines being turned for their return journey. When I returned to Tyseley I kept in touch with my friend and met him a couple of times at Snow Hill and joined him on the footplate to Low level and once through to Shrewsbury and return. I hopped off at Snow Hill. The return Trip to Shrewsbury totalled 304 miles for him. The longest daily turn on the Western Region. He went back to Cardiff eventually to be a driver at Canton depot. When Steam was on the way out Tyseley men would work the Inter City up to London and return with the 8.10 to Snow Hill 220 miles. In my link at Tyseley we would relieve the 6.10 pm ex Paddington at Snow Hill and work to Low level. I fired most of the Stafford Road Kings even if it was only for a short distance. Great times. I have lived abroad in Europe since 1997 now 27 years and I still remember my loco spotting days and Railway years like yesterday. Nostalgia aaahhh.
Why do they call it a down express ?“A pair of 4-2-2 'Singles' wait at the Wolverhampton end of Birmingham Snow Hill with what is probably a down express to Shrewsbury or Birkenhead. The style of clothing worn would suggest a year around 1905, just before complete rebuilding and enlargement of the station.”
Main line to Metro: train and tram on the Great Western (J Boynton, 2001)
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Looking at this picture, I wondered how many people have passed through Snow Hill? Last was there, November 1962, I took the boat train to Southampton.“Birmingham Snow Hill, 1898. The photographer was standing at the platform end, almost on the bridge above Great Charles Street.
One feature not carried over into the new station was the footbridge, positioned above the mid-platform cross overs.”
Main line to Metro: train and tram on the Great Western (J Boynton, 2001)
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From https://www.tectraining.co.uk/doc/topic-2-railway-orientation-file.pdfWhy do they call it a down express ?
Thank you for that Mike. So the up or down relates to the destination size rather than direction, did not know that!
For some bizarre reason, trains go "up" towards London and "down" away from it. (Based on the idea that there is nothing of importanceWhy do they call it a down express ?
I’ve given up on that !Re Down Express
Often, but not always, it was up to London and down from London
That depends where you live We always go up to Lunnon.Always gone down to London,
Yes, could be a little scary around there at night timeÐoes anyone remember the stockrooms under the Snow Hill side of the station that Greys ran in the 60s ,when the shop porters had to push trolleys of stock up the hill to the store in Bull Street ?