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Sawkins Herbert Thomas

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carolannesmith

Proud t b Brummie
born around 1890. married to annie simpson in 1914. father of three boys Frederick, Herbert and Alfred. His fathers name was also Herbert Thomas, his son herbert died i believe by drowning in a canal in 1926. any help with my grandfathers details would be greatly appreciated, unable to find him in either 1901 or 1911 census. thank you cas:)

i hav herbert and annie's marriage cert, they were living at 362 bolton rd, herbert was a tube drawer and annie worked in screw trade. herbert's dad had the same name and was deceased at time of marriage in 1914. annie's dad was henry simpson again stated as deceased. i always new my father had a brother that drowned but if i am researchin correctly (i am very new to this) he also had an older sister ethel m sawkins, born in 1914 who died a year later (year my dad was born) and a sister violet sawkins born in 1919 and died at age of 3. think i am correct in this as mothersname in each case was simpson.
any advice on further trackingfamily greatly appreciated. cas
 
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Cas
At 47 Garrison Street
1920 Herbert & Annie Sawkins & Alfred & Emily Humphries
1922 All as above
1925 All as above
1927 Annie Sawkins & Alfred & Emily Humphries
1930 All as above
1935 All as above
1939 Anne & Frederick Sawkins & Alfred & Emily Humphries
 
There are 2 death entries for Herbert Sawkins. One appears to be the son you say died in 1926. The second is in 1925 but if this is the father it makes his birth year around 1878? not 1890 and this one would be too young to be the father of a child born 1890?

Herbert Sawkins died 1926 aged 8 Bham South ref AMJ 6d 277
Herbert Sawkins died 1925 aged 47 AMJ Bham Nth ref 6d 356
 
49 Wolseley Street

1945 Alfred & Emily Humphries & Annie, Alfred & Florence Sawkins
1950 Annie & Alfred Sawkins
1955 Annie & Alfred Sawkins
 
this is def my family. all ties in with family history. grandad died when my father frederick (born 1915) was young, poss in 1925. frederick, dad, married my mom in 1940 and moved out. his suviving brother alfred then lived with his mom in wolsey street til she died in house fire in 1963. alfreds wife (florence) died poss in child birth n annie brought up her grandson alfie as her own.
 
i have had some luck with my family tree:-
grandad Herbert thomas sawkins b1880 alton, hampshire d1925 aston, bham. wife annie simpson died when she fell on a house fire in aston.
his elder brother sidney james sawkins b1877, i lose track of him. can't work out whether he died when 6 or moved to australia??

great grandad thomas sawkins b1849 alton, hampshire d1880 alton, hamps. wife hannah ammelia mann who remarried albert pink in alton and moved to aston.

great, great grandad thomas sawkins b1825, d1909 alton hamps. wife frances croucher

g,g,g grandad james saweaus?? this is where i get stuck. could anyone give me any advice?
 
these are my family i had assumed my grandad was younger than he was. yes, he was born in 1880 in alton, hamps and died in1925 in aston brum. the young herbert would have been my uncle who died in the canal. hav u any advice how i might research his death, either an inquest or a report in the newspapers?
 
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